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      It’s only condemnable if it’s white people that are dying. Muslims, of course, don’t count.

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        You are aware they started that narrative for two reasons: 1) To distract from the fact they were radicalizing nazis in the area and 2) to drum up justification for a war with china. The only reason it’s still around despite the MOUNTAINS of evidence proving it wrong is because Americans are so fucking racist that they don’t even care that it’s blatantly bullshit because it gives them moral carte blanche to hate china.

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                I know you’re in no position to call it a firehose of falsehood, because I knew you were never actually going to read any of it.

                But if you want to understand how the Five Eyes governments and corporate media propaganda work, I’ve got a firehose of facts for that as well. The inner workings of corporate media were explained about forty years ago in Inventing Reality and Manufacturing Consent.
                A five minute introductory video: Noam Chomsky - The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine

                Bonus rounds:

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                  You misunderstood. I’m taking your word as is.

                  Government propaganda is good to realize!

                  Let’s say we have a basket of apples. The world’s most powerful apples. And they all look rotten and diseased, we know the reasons which make them rotten, it’s peer reviewed and considered a fact.

                  So then we make a leap of faith. What if despite evvvvvvveeeerrrything, this one apple is actually pure and holy. And only a few know this for sure and they’re not letting anyone else know the proof.

                  That’s very wonderful but, kinda sketchy at the same time?

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                    The metaphor you’re constructing seems to be one part forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge and one part bad apples, and I don’t quite follow.

                    The general population doesn’t know what’s happening, and it doesn’t even know that it doesn’t know. — Noam Chomsky

                    Most people don’t know they’re being propagandized in the first place, so it doesn’t occur to them to see past it. And of those who do notice, most don’t have the time, energy, skill set, and inclination to dig out the truth. It’s not impossible, but it is a lot of work. The information is accessible, but corporate media generally aren’t going to provide it.

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            Modded as misinfo, worth to check the modlog… There were no links to any fake news sites nor information commented, just a realization that apparently all reports of even different cases can’t possibly have any truth to them.

            Trump’s lawsuits could be an allegory. There’s so many of them and similarly all of them have to be fake I guess. No fire where there’s smoke

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              There were no links to any fake news sites

              Really making it obvious here that when liberals say “misinformation” they don’t mean “false information” they mean “using sources I don’t like”. Your post contained misinformation; it’s got nothing to do with “links” or “fake news sites”

              There’s so many of them and similarly all of them have to be fake I guess. No fire where there’s smoke

              This is literally the argument that neonazis make to justify their antisemitism: “the Jews have been accused of so many bad things! Surely they can’t all be fake”.

              Turns out it’s actually extremely easy to fire hose bad faith accusations at your enemies.

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                I’m sorry you see me as an enemy and act reactively. I see we the people as one and am not related to the image you need to attack.

                Edit: and after all the compassion that horrible projection of a reply is what we see

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                  I see we the people as one

                  Then you’d be wrong from the jump; because ‘we the people’ have always been split down the middle between who owns the plantation and who gets forced to toil; and in 400 years that has not changed.

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                    The oligarchs really push the division agenda, but it’s only artificial and doesn’t stand inspection

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              Thanks for replying but I would really appreciate if you mentioned the specific topic or the context. I’m having quite some trouble understanding your previous comment without context.

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                  You were referring to something by saying “it”. I just want to understand the context. I mean no offence. I apologise if my comments came across in any unintentional way. English isn’t my first language.

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                    There is nothing to get. If you don’t understand that’s a good thing. You will be happier not knowing.