Russia-Ukraine latest: X suspends Navalny wife's account - as Moscow puts brother on wanted list
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The widow of Alexei Navalny, Yulia Navalnaya, has had her X account suspended. Meanwhile, his brother has been put on Moscow wanted list's. Listen to a Daily podcast special on Russian opposition in the wake of Navalny's death as you scroll.
    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
      9833·
      9 个月前

      He doesn’t want Xitter to get banned in Russia and there are no consequences for arbitrarily banning people. Pretty obviously just business.

      Wish people would stop using that site.

      Or someone would nationalize it.

      • TheEntity@kbin.social
        1171·
        9 个月前

        If he’s being a putin stooge because it’s good for his business, he’s still being a putin stooge.

      • m-p{3}@lemmy.ca
        22·
        9 个月前

        I’d prefer for it to crash and burn, not nationalize it and bail him out of his bad investment.

      • Snapz@lemmy.world
        171·
        9 个月前

        “Just business”

        Are you seriously trying to make the argument that elon “if you advertisers don’t like my performative bootlicking bullshit then go fuck yourself” musk is doing something for the good of a business and NOT because of his vindictive, forever 13 year-old, ultra-divorced, fermented hair plug influenced personal political positions?

        You’re 1000% confusing this coincidentally being a move that might not get him banned in Russia, with that being the core motivation. There’s a disconnect in your comment, last two statements are valid, first is cookoo bananas.

      • Serpentian@lemmy.ml
        14·
        9 个月前

        He doesn’t want Xitter to get banned in Russia

        Well, It has been blocked for 2 years now. How Do You Like This, Elon Musk?)

      • Red_October@lemmy.world
        51·
        9 个月前

        Honestly nationalizing it would be a bad idea. Once it’s government owned, then the 1st amendment would actually apply and banning people, including the more openly Nazi accounts than you can imagine, would probably be illegal. It would be overrun with even more heinous filth than it houses now.

        It really is best for everyone that Twitter dies, and good news! Under Musk’s incredible zero-win leadership, it looks pretty inevitable!

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          31·
          9 个月前

          Openly Nazi accounts already avoid getting banned so that doesn’t really change anything.

          Though you’re right, we need to pack the Court first and undo right-wing jurisprudence.

        • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
          2·
          9 个月前

          Yeah, this. Practically speaking the only country that could nationalize Twitter is the US. It’s already a pain in the ass doing moderation without getting the US Constitution in there. It wouldn’t just be the 1st amendment, you might also get lawsuits based on other constitutional protections. I 100% guarantee, the US government does not want to get involved.

      • z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml
        2·
        9 个月前

        Why stop with Xitter? I personally feel like there should be a national equivalent to the corporate search engines, job boards, etc. National alternatives to everything.

      • uis@lemm.ee
        1·
        9 个月前

        He doesn’t want Xitter to get banned in Russia

        Too bad it already is for last 3 years

      • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
        32·
        9 个月前

        Or someone would nationalize it.

        Oh, the anti-vax broflakes and maga cult will vacate that thing in droves. If the right country ‘owns’ it - thinking Jacinda Ardern’s government if we had a time machine, or just the UN now - then advertisers may come back. Or it may just exist as a cost-free platform for cat pics and tsunami/twister alerts.

        Wait. Isn’t that what we want? No halfwit conspiracy fucknuts, and a still-usable platform? Where do the bots using it for C&C fit into this?

        • hansl@lemmy.world
          21·
          9 个月前

          Public spaces should be government owned. Each country could have its own public servers with a guaranteed spot for every citizen. People can cross post.

          If you want anonymity you can have private servers too.

      • Jimbabwe@lemmy.world
        12·
        9 个月前

        Putin would never ban X in Russia, are you crazy?

        “Hmm yes, banning my best propaganda tool. This is the move.” - Not Putin

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          6·
          9 个月前

          Because Musk curates the platform to Russia’s standards. If Xitter didn’t do stuff like suspening Navalny’s wife, Russia might decide to go to a Chinese platform or try to develop their own.

    • boredtortoise@lemm.ee
      294·
      9 个月前

      Banning Starlink from Ukraine but not Russia… Banning Putin’s adversaries… Hmmmmmmm

    • index@sh.itjust.works
      216·
      9 个月前

      I’ll explain it to you really simply: his business are based in america not in russia. He’s also directly involved with the usa government and the usa military.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX#Contracts

      People greedy for money don’t care where their profits come from, given that i still think it’s naive to call him a putin stooge when the majority of his money comes from usa thanks to his links with us government.

      • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        9 个月前

        And if he wants to align with the US, why would he ban her, when she’s being a motor against the Russian government, a clear enemy of the US? His actions go against the assumption that he is US aligned.

        • uis@lemm.ee
          1·
          9 个月前

          why would he ban her,

          I think because of ACF. Probably he is tied to corruption in Russia.

        • index@sh.itjust.works
          11·
          9 个月前

          Well guess what they are not banned anymore. I’ll ask you another question, if the ceo of usa and the ceo of russia telephone him asking for a favor which one do you think would get the priority?

    • Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee
      11·
      9 个月前

      It’s a naked dog whistle, and I’m not sure why the corpo press didn’t see right through it. It’s not the 1950s with ‘obscenity’ trials, the speech that is controversial nowadays is hate speech.

      The state of Twitter nowadays confirms exactly the kind of people Musk was thinking about when he said that.

  • EatATaco@lemm.eeEnglish
    124·
    9 个月前

    Remember when all the conspiracy theorists were cheering elons take over of twitter because it meant free speech? I do. Also remember how pretty much none of them is complaining about his control of the platform now. It’s almost like they never really cared about free speech in the first place, but only their own.

    • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
      542·
      9 个月前

      Conspiracy theorists? I was looking forward to the changes he said he was going to make but how does that make me a conspiracy theorist now?

      EDIT: I’d love to read the logs for why I’m getting downvoted for. This is one damn hateful group of people lol

      • EatATaco@lemm.eeEnglish
        35·
        9 个月前

        Oh, I’m sorry, I should have been clear that people getting fooled by him was not limited to conspiracy theorists. It’s just who I heard it the most from where there was some conspiracy among big tech to silence dissenting opinions and he would save us from it.

        • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          81·
          9 个月前

          Me too, the Facebook files were a big deal in the first few weeks after his takeover too (once the overwhelming news about layoffs and brain drain subsided).

    • index@sh.itjust.works
      444·
      9 个月前

      Remember when all the conspiracy theorists were cheering elons take over of twitter because it meant free speech?

      No? And who are conspiracy theorists?

        • index@sh.itjust.works
          520·
          9 个月前

          I’ve pay same attention and noticed “conspiracy theorists” is a vague term used by governments as a cover up and to call out anyone who disagree with them.

          • Signtist@lemm.ee
            131·
            9 个月前

            Conspiracy theorists are people who believe wild, baseless information, whose only sources are other people who believe wild, baseless information. My mom thinks that the US is owned by some guy in Montana because she saw a youtube video that said so. She believes that any time someone spells her name in all caps they’re literally trying to enslave her. She believes that Donald Trump is literally the second coming of Jesus Christ, and that Elon Musk is one of his new disciples because he allowed him back onto Twitter. She believes that sitting in a chair that vibrates at a specific frequency is more likely to cure her stage 4 breast cancer than an oncologist. My mom is a conspiracy theorist, and she’ll be dead soon from cancer that she found while it was still easily treatable with surgery, but decided then that oregano oil would be a more effective treatment.

            • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
              13·
              9 个月前

              Conspiracy theorists are people who believe wild, baseless information, whose only sources are other people who believe wild, baseless information.

              Like that Elon Musk is personally responsible for kicking Yulia Navalnaya off Twitter only then to restore her account an hour later and that he’s doing this because he’s a Russian puppet?

              There’s plenty of legitimate reasons to not like the guy but what I’m seeing here is a hate cult. The above claim about him is literally wild, baseless information and its source is other people who believe in said wild baseless information. When challenged the response is either complete silence and flood of downvotes or misinformation about him turning off starlink to prevent Ukrainian attack on Crimea.

              • Signtist@lemm.ee
                3·
                9 个月前

                I never said anything about Elon being directly responsible for this, nor did anyone else within the replies to the conspiracy theory comment that I was referring to. The fact of the matter is that conspiracy theorists touted Elon’s acquisition of Twitter as being the return of free speech, but immediately after the death of Putin’s largest opposition figure, who’s wife said that she would carry his torch, she’s removed from the platform. Whether due to Elon or anyone else, Twitter is not a platform of free speech, and that should outrage anyone, whether they Like Elon or not, and whether they agree with Navalny and his wife or not.

            • index@sh.itjust.works
              13·
              9 个月前

              Conspiracy theorists are people who believe wild, baseless information, whose only sources are other people who believe wild, baseless information.

              That’s not what the definition of conspiracy theorist is even according the the dictionary. Keep it on topic, the idea of twitter being a free speech platform is something that Musk advertised themself, i’ve personally not seen a single person actually taking it seriously.

  • casmael@lemm.ee
    531·
    9 个月前

    Wow I like this Elon guy less and less every time I read a headline about him

    • butterflyattack@lemmy.world
      2·
      9 个月前

      I’ll admit I was a bit taken in by the image his PR people created, a few years back before he decided he didn’t need them. I think I wanted to believe in the benevolent billionaire bullshit, that maybe a rich person wanted to do some good in the world. Dumb fuckin me, won’t be making that mistake again.

  • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    9 个月前

    Damn, PG, wasted no time in kicking his wife off the platform (yet trump and Alex Jones are both allowed there…)