• Ephera@lemmy.mlOP
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    9 months ago

    I mean, for sure, and this meme isn’t trying to say that all SPAs are bad. But defaults matter, even for experts.

    This meme was inspired after I had to use an SPA, which among those points in the meme, also broke using Alt+Left to navigate back. The normal back-button worked (even if it then had to load for ten seconds to re-display static content).

    Which is just a typical example to me. You don’t even need much expertise to figure out why Alt+Left is broken. But you have to think of testing Alt+Left, because it’s broken by default.

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      9 months ago

      My friend I’ve been using the Internet for 27 years and developing for it for most of that time and I can promise you I’ve never once hit Alt+Left

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        9 months ago

        I have never heard of alt+left, and I’ve been using the Internet since Mosaic was all the rage. Shame on me, it seems to be implemented in all browsers. How could I have missed it?

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          9 months ago

          It’s even implemented in many file managers and text editors and such. Pretty much the standard shortcut for navigating history. But yeah, hilariously it’s somehow also a rather well-kept secret.

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        9 months ago

        Yeah, I have no trouble believing that. It took quite a while before I learned of this shortcut and when I did, I was wondering why I would ever want to use it.

        But I generally work from my laptop these days, without an external mouse connected, so reaching from my touchpad, the Left key is right there.

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          Your reason for using it was exactly my question. “I have a mouse with a built in back button, why would I want to remove my hand from my mouse and navigate with the arrow key?”

          But your reason simply makes sense.

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          9 months ago

          You can probably go back by swiping two fingers to the right on the touchpad. Maybe it depends on the OS and browser.

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            9 months ago

            Yeah, that works on my personal laptop, but not yet on my work laptop, because they insist on preinstalling an old, buggy OS. If that did work everywhere, I would probably be using that, but not breaking Alt+Left for whoever needs/wants it, would still be nice. 🫠

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              9 months ago

              Ok, that’s unfortunate. But I agree, the browsers default keybindings really shouldn’t be broken it’s really annoying. I hate it when middle click doesn’t work with some web pages. 😒

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                It really sucks when they break “open link in new tab”. I then have follow the stupid link, then middle click the back button to do what they broke.

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        9 months ago

        I started using alt+left when browsers started removing backspace. It was for the best.