Of the examples they gave I really think only Fisuxcel’s tranny faggot comment was ban worthy. And even then he’s not even a admin here and lemmy world could have just deleted his community.

Maybe Wiggle hards sodom and gomorrah reference post (of which I lold) But I mean that is a mainstream religious view whether they like it or not.

I suggest in the future admin’s keep their edgy content on alt accounts and in communities that pussy instances can just block.

In this way federation may work a little better.

On the one hand, fuck lemmy world. On the other hand, instances defederating hurts everyone so I do think it is our responsibility to work with them a little bit if they can be reasonable about it.

I take full responsibility for my Biden Pedo post which was featured. Biden is a Pedo but it was animated and perhaps I could have tagged it nsfw.

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    Honestly I only found this place because of all the fuss. Would have preferred to use one instance for everything but the divide is only growing these days. I suppose it is what it is.

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      Created an account here specifically cause of the announcement too. Seems like a lot of these servers are increasingly becoming echo chambers for the far left.

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    oof I kinda want a free speech instance I could care less if they all defederate, hopefully one or a few will open soon

    these people would defederate anyway there’s no real appeasing them unless you’re hyperbolically to the left of bernie

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      It’s ok. The post about you is the ONLY post he made. In other words he purposefully created that account instigated a fight with you and who knows how many others to get a ban worthy response. That is how they operate.

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    Right, it does hurt everyone when they defederate.

    But what can we do?

    People are going to do that.

    Just post in good faith and let’s enjoy our own instance and try to grow it. Maybe something will change in the future.

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        no because most people are decent people who despise the kind of things that are being said here. It’s never going to be “mainstream”. It’s never going to be cool to be a hater. You’re always going to be sad little losers in your internet bubble blaming everyone and everything else

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          most people are decent people who despise the kind of things that are being said here

          tbh I think posters are being tame here, and there are perhaps a majority of people who agree with things being posted here

          the views are pretty mainstream and liked

          never going to be cool to be a hater

          well, the other side very much seems to hate us or our values at times so I think “hate” seems to be pretty popular, it’s just a debate about what to “hate”

          sad little losers in your internet bubble

          we are growing and were here before this current reddit influx, the redditors aren’t even our core / target group so I am not surprised if few have joined the instance

          if a minority, there has frequently been a correct minority against an incorrect majority

          Now are there specifics you would like to debate or discuss that you disagree with? Might be good for another post if so. I think a lot of posters are willing to be accommodating to opposite views and to find possible bipartisan solutions to problems.

          For example, abortion takes an innocent life so should be criminalized (something perhaps you disagree with?) but there has been a proposed solution of “evacuationism” which would allow a pregnancy to be transferred to another womb. We could also talk about making adoption services more accessible. These would be solutions that would make the issue less burdensome to those who may not agree with the policy that seems to be correct on this topic.

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    let them shrivel and die in their echo chamber, never bend the knee to their struggle sessions

    activity pub is a bad and flawed protocol

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      Do you think exploding-heads.com is an echo chamber? It seems like an absolute free speech haven would attract people banned from everywhere else, bringing togethe extreme viewpoints without any moderate or opposing views, causing an echo chamber

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        I’m a pretty moderate person and I am here. The problem is that even holding classic liberal views can still be considered racist, transphobic, or whatever other ism. On most of these communities if you question anything that goes against a far-left view you get banned/deleted. That’s why I sought out a place like this. I want to be able to question and discuss things without being censored for it. I’ve found the majority of popular communities are all openly leftist in nature.

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          Depends what you use as your scale of left and right. And that left right sliding scale isn’t terribly useful either. How far left you view something is more relative to your own position rather than absolute. There are a lot of places that accept genuine discussion, just not bad faith arguments and particularly vile speech. What were you trying to say that got shut down?

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            I’d say as of recently the scales have heavily shifted. The meme that got spread around from Elon Musk I think highlights well what I am talking about when it comes to this shift: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519735033950470144/photo/1 . I would say that like this meme is showing I was on the left in 2008, but now that same kind of thinking would now often get viewed as being on the right even though my views have never really changed.

            I support abortion and this would probably get me considered on the left. But I also strongly support people having the right to own weapons for self-defense. This opinion would in many communities give me the label of being on the right. Hell in many communities on reddit I may even get banned or have my comments deleted by saying something “pro-gun”. Simply being in favour of a more open dialogue that entails more “free-speech” and less censorship somehow also gets you considered a “nazi”. I see those very comments on the community you are coming from calling places that support free speech a haven for “racists”.

            The opinion that is most likely to get me banned/removed from places is any opinion that goes against any PRIDE related content. In my opinion it’s not even that extreme of a view. I have no problem with people who are gay, lesbian, etc… I also have no problem with people who would like to change their gender. The only problems I have are when this begins being pushed onto kids. And it’s not even specifically because I have a problem with people wanting to change their gender, it’s simply because I know the science indicates people aren’t good at making long term decisions until they are onto often their mid 20’s. And I know there are many people who regret having such surgeries at such young ages. I particularly do not support that parents can lose the say in these regards despite a child not even being 18 let alone 16. But that’s my opinion and it’s a pretty firm one in all regards. I don’t even think people under the age of 18 should be doing things like getting tattoos. But the problem is that I’m labelled transphobic because of opinions like these. Even though it’s the opinion held by the majority and is honestly a fairly rational one. It’s not even discriminatory or attacking anyone specifically, it’s just an opinion regarding a person’s competency to make long-term life-altering decisions at young ages. Yet for some reason it can get you labelled things, banned, and censored away.

            It’s for reasons like that why I need to come to platforms like this. Because I want to feel safe sharing an opinion that doesn’t align with the cult/tribe of many online worlds without getting banned for it.

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    We are good neighbours. I dont see the issues. Lemmy world admins are bullied by their community into choices and thats completely up to them. If they want to be like a budget version of Beehaw we cant stop them. I also think that the people that dont want to deal with the influx of easily triggered people find their way here.

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          Hihi if you react like this to someone calling something gay you must be a fat loser in real life. I bet you cant handle even the slightest of problems 🤗

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            I see I forgot to add “fat shamer” to the list. You probably go through life wondering why everyone hates you when you don’t “even do anything wrong”.

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              Fat shame vs what, what lizzo does promoting an unhealthy lifestyle of being morbidly obese snd doing nothing About it?

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              It always irks you people really bad when someone has a job and a good life. Newsflash: Life isnt a Disney movie. Karma doesnt exist. 🤗

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                I have all of those things and more - like health insurance - here in “commie” Europe! What kind of comeback is that lmao. Oh wow he has a job. You know what, tell those people at your ‘job’ that you’re on this website and see how long you still have it.

                Also pretty telling that even in your own bubble you guys can’t seem to get a single post above 20 votes. But sure keep your eyes closed, reality is a scary place.

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          Fyi in my day when we said something was gay in that manner it meant it was lame, dumb, retarded, stupid, irrelevant, ridiculous not sexual in the sense

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            Yes being born in the eighties, it was like that back in my day too. But than you meet people who are gay, who are good normal people trying to simply fucking exist and are hurt when you use that word negatively. Then you realize that’s not right and that shouldn’t be used as a slur. Same with calling someone “retarded”.

            The use or definition of words can change over time.

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              I understand your argument, but it seems like in my opinion that the woke left has an ever-changing spectrum of what is and isn’t acceptable and personally I’m tired of playing along. I am hosting this community as a free speech, absolutism community where people can say impose, whatever they want without fear of being exiled or banned unless it violates the patriot act which has specifically a list of what is and is not acceptable for online speech. Also, I try to uphold my other administrators rules as well. I would advise you to block this community if you do not like the Content in it or are someone who is easily offended (no insult intended) if you need assistance using the block feature, I am always happy to help

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                Ever changing spectrum of what isn’t and is acceptable? Yes, you probably wish you could go back to the times when it was cool to call black people the n-word and they would high five you. “Personally I’m tired to be responsible for my actions and thoughtful for my fellow humans.”

                And then “why did everyone defederate with us? don’t they like free speech?”

                I know how to block instances. I have a clean account on other instances, don’t worry. I’m here like I would visit a zoo.

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                  Im against racism of that sort, I could tell you a personal story about how the KKK handed flyers for some sort of event around my town when I was a kid during the 90s and how it caused a lot of hurt amongst the community but I’ll spare you the drama. And as far as Black people go, I have many black friends and I used to be in an all black rap group as the only white member and my ex wife was hatian. Also, I would like to note that I drive trucks for a living and that there was a guy from Africa who was not getting many hours but was a great guy, so I personally invited him onto my truck to work as my helper, and now he is doing great getting lots of hours And able to put food on the table for himself and his wife and young child.

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          I don’t have any problem with gays you guys are just to sensitive. It’s when you dangle butt plugs in front of children we tend to get mad. You are not special for liking pp in your bhole.

          Also I think admins keeping their extreme views in places other’s can easily block out is a very polite thing to do I don’t know what you are complaining about.

          Dessalines of at lemmy.ml keeps all his genocide denying post in a alt at lemmygrad.

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      When I was first taught about using the internet for school research back in the late 90s, they told us to not believe everything we read because anyone can publish whatever they want. It was an accepted fact and you were taught how to do your own research. The early internet was the wild west. Nowadays people act like misinformation online is a new thing and they want site moderators and even the government to censor anything deemed misinformation, AKA anything that goes against their opinions.

      Its crazy how things changed in the last 10-15 years. This old College Humor video is an interesting look back at the flame war comment sections of the late 2000s It used to be that we didn’t take stuff so seriously online, even on Reddit back in the day you could call OP a fag and not get banned. It seems these days the people who call themselves tolerant are the most intolerant. I thought Lemmy world and similar sites were going to be more like the early days of Reddit, but its clearly turning into current Reddit. If these people want heavy censorship and mods that close threads because people can’t “behave”, why don’t they just go back to Reddit.

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        thanks for the video link! That song is hilarious. I totaly agree I had the same thought that we might get less censorship but it seems worse on most instances. For people that claim to hate intolerance they shure are pretty damn intolerant of opposing views.

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        I remember watching that CollegeHumor video back in the day. Damn, I miss that era of the internet. Everyone just saying whatever retarded shit they wanted without a care in the world.

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      No it’s actually how most non-americans look at you right-wing nuts in the States. And then you still think it can’t be about you guys being racist, homophobic and calling people slurs. “No it must be political oppression, damn leftists”.

      Your brain so smooth you can’t get hurt, everything just slides off.

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    I just had a look at the posts they referenced.

    Sadly I think it all comes down to politics. If those memes etc were about conservatives or conservative causes - I do not think they would have had a problem with them.

    They mostly came from the same community - they could have easily just blocked that community - either as individual users or as an instance - but they chose to go the extreme censorship route.

    I would just say be mindful when you post - your post can have consequences for all Exploding Heads users - good and bad.

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      This can also be a rallying point. lemmy world has a lot of users. They just pinned a post about exploding heads and linked to it multiple times. I imagine your user count will now grow as a result. Other’s are right that many of the current reddit exodus are extremist left wing ideologs. exploding-heads is in a good spot to catch growth from other demographics.

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                Lets see here, in the past three years you guys (libs) kicked mass amounts of conservatives off social media, tried to force inject us with vaccine for your corporate slave masters at big pharma, don’t realize that joe biden is using ukraine as a proxy to help fund his buddies in the military industrial complex instea Of brokering peace deals, all while ignoring that he took bribes from foreign nationals for his political standing and influence, doubled the price of gas, 2 billion in blm riot damage, donated all that money to them only to find out their leaders spent lavishly on themselves and not black communities, trued creating a ministry of truth or misinformation, had the fbi hide the fsct the laptop was real, armed and hired 67000 irs agents, forcing the lgbt agenda down everyones throats, allowing a humanitarian crisis and illegal invasion of our southern border, food prices skyrocketing, baby formula shortages, and forced the DOJ to indict a man for something that every other president including Biden when he was vp (all while ignoring he acts like he is retarded and senile snd loves sniffing kids hair

                All you guys got is that your slut cum dumpster chicks cant get abortions anymore in certain red states and your mad that we dont want dumb fucking dudes in dressses dancing and stripping in front of kids and reading to our kids,

                Response?

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                  Response? I AM EUROPEAN. What the fuck does asking not to be a racist, bigot and/or homophobe has to do with any of this? And again, you wonder why nobody in the rest of the world wants to deal with you people because you’re injecting your fox news talking points into every discussion and honestly it’s tiring. I’m here now because of my own free will dealing with you but THIS IS THE REASON WHY YOU GUYS ARE BLOCKED AND IGNORED.

                  It’s bam-bam-bam one bullshit theory after another and it takes a shitload more effort to respond to any of those claims than it is to make them.

                  So again I am here out of my own free will so I’ll reply to some of those things. I’ll just take the first three!

                  libruls kicked us out of social media

                  Who runs Twitter? Elon Mush who would love to be the republican candidate to become president if it wasn’t for his parents being south-african mine owners.

                  force inject us the vaccine

                  This is not even a discussion for me. The anti-vax crowd are dumb as fuck. Vaccines help. Are you not vaccinated against measels? Or polio? No there is a global conspiracy and all doctors in the world are working together to kill people. Trump said so. Get some ivermectin that works just as well! Funny how all those republicans who were using the entire vaccine discussion as a weapon turned out to be vaccinated themselves because they knew they were spewing shit.

                  Ukraine is a proxy war

                  Nice russian talking point, got this one from Fox or from Putin himself? Nevermind that every country that borders with Russia (except puppet-state Belarus) doesn’t want anything to do with Russia. Russia is a bullying ex to those countries they used to form the USSR with. And on Ukraine specifically, have you been there? Because I have colleagues right here that come from there. They had to flee from Crimea when Russia went “this is mine”. And now you think the Ukrainians would roll over and take it a second time?

                  So here we are talking about your fox news talking points… Just to deflect the fact that you’re running a site with nazi scum

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      Yes totally about politics. Not about how everyone in the world looks at you MAGA/left-wing crowd like a bunch of clowns. There’s more to the world than the States and here in Europe we don’t want to deal with you guys. Get some like-minded instances you can link up with and we’ll do the same. We don’t need to interact with you. Oh no nobody wants to federate with you? Wonder why. Not the blatant racism and generaly dumbfuckery no it’s politics for suuure.