I still believe there should be more representation in media of women with body hair.
We should normalize picking what’s best for each person individually and not trying to portray a certain way that women are “supposed” to look.
Funnily enough, I personally prefer body hair because it’s softer than stubble. But that’s my personal preference and not one I tell others that they should do just to please me. (not saying you are doing this, just putting thoughts to words).
Fiona Dourif did a fantastic job portraying Bart in this show. If being clean shaven is how they wanted to appear on screen, I think their right to do so supersedes any obligation they have to ‘normalize’ anything for anyone else. It certainly did not harm the performance.
The media is made up of individuals with their own choices or autonomy. It’s fair to say “I wish this got more representation in media” but it’s entity unfair to criticise specific individuals for not upholding a specific standard. The original premise was “what if being clean shaven was her choice?” in which case it would be nobody’s place to hold that against her.
Women being hairless is a manufactured media campaign. We are born with hair, we grow hair, hair on women is natural. The prevalence of showing women as hairless below our eyebrows is a deliberate choice and it is not simply down to individual preferences.
Again, nobody has an obligation to change their body for the sake of normalizing a certain beauty standard. If the actor doesn’t want to grow out it’s their right not to do so. You can’t criticise individuals for industry trends.
Applaud diversity when you see it, but don’t critisise people just for being themselves.
Natural body is a polite way of framing ungroomed. Men nor women like seeing poor hygiene. Some types of poor hygiene are seen as worse than others. Dirty hair? Sorta gross. Body hair? Disgusting.
My husband loves my hairy body. 🤷♂️ Finding hair disgusting and unsanitary isn’t a natural state for men, it’s something you’ve been taught. Clean hair isn’t unhygienic.
Isn’t that for you to decide? I know gay men who think facial hair is disgusting. Some like it. Regardless, I don’t get to tell my audience what they like, which is what you’re trying to do.
Which goes back to the above: “Americans are crazy. having perfectly natural hair under her armpits would be unacceptably disgusting for an American”
Wouldn’t want to accurately portray women’s natural bodies lest they think it might be acceptable to be unshaven.
Or maybe she, the actress, prefers it, and she, the actress, didn’t want to change something superficial for the show.
Personally I don’t like body hair. It’s coarse and irritating.
I still believe there should be more representation in media of women with body hair.
We should normalize picking what’s best for each person individually and not trying to portray a certain way that women are “supposed” to look.
Funnily enough, I personally prefer body hair because it’s softer than stubble. But that’s my personal preference and not one I tell others that they should do just to please me. (not saying you are doing this, just putting thoughts to words).
Fiona Dourif did a fantastic job portraying Bart in this show. If being clean shaven is how they wanted to appear on screen, I think their right to do so supersedes any obligation they have to ‘normalize’ anything for anyone else. It certainly did not harm the performance.
I’m not criticizing their performance or their individual choices.
I’m criticizing how the media wants to portray women as completely hairless all of the time.
The media is made up of individuals with their own choices or autonomy. It’s fair to say “I wish this got more representation in media” but it’s entity unfair to criticise specific individuals for not upholding a specific standard. The original premise was “what if being clean shaven was her choice?” in which case it would be nobody’s place to hold that against her.
Women being hairless is a manufactured media campaign. We are born with hair, we grow hair, hair on women is natural. The prevalence of showing women as hairless below our eyebrows is a deliberate choice and it is not simply down to individual preferences.
Again, nobody has an obligation to change their body for the sake of normalizing a certain beauty standard. If the actor doesn’t want to grow out it’s their right not to do so. You can’t criticise individuals for industry trends.
Applaud diversity when you see it, but don’t critisise people just for being themselves.
Natural body is a polite way of framing ungroomed. Men nor women like seeing poor hygiene. Some types of poor hygiene are seen as worse than others. Dirty hair? Sorta gross. Body hair? Disgusting.
Oh, men are supposed to shave their body hair or they’re disgusting?
I mean, I’m morally consistent on this one in that I think everyone looks better smooth. Yall can be hairy if you want though.
Thanks for recognizing the difference between personal preference and personal choice <3
I should call her…
pleeeease
If you want men to like your body, yes. Personally, I don’t want that.
You sound like my dad asking why I’d date someone with tattoos because according to him tattoos are ugly.
Your personal preferences don’t dictate what others like.
My husband loves my hairy body. 🤷♂️ Finding hair disgusting and unsanitary isn’t a natural state for men, it’s something you’ve been taught. Clean hair isn’t unhygienic.
In my instance armpit hair is unhygienic. If I don’t remove it, my BO will break through 72h deoderant in 4 hours.
And if I don’t shave my balls I get a psorisis flareup in an area you really don’t want psorisis.
Can I assume you also believe that women only want hairy men then? Because I’m pretty certain you’re going to get pushback on that too.
It’s a great way to filter out men who don’t deserve access to my body.
My sex life never diminished when I stopped shaving.
For real? Did i understand you correct that for you it’s worse having clean hair in armpits or on legs than unwashed hair on the head?
Do you also remove ALL of your own body hair?
It is possible to not ever cut any of your hair and still be hygienic and clean!
I wish I could permanently delete all my body hair. Laser doesn’t work for me unfortunately
Natural landscape is such a hippie way of framing unpaved!
Are men with trimmed beards gross and unhygienic?
Isn’t that for you to decide? I know gay men who think facial hair is disgusting. Some like it. Regardless, I don’t get to tell my audience what they like, which is what you’re trying to do.
I didn’t make the assertion that body hair is unhygienic.
You made the implied assertion that people need to like it because it’s natural.
Where did I say that people need to like it?
It’s so annoying when people edit their comments after they get replies.
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My righteous anger preceded my lack of shaving.
I know American women with armpit hair, I don’t retch when I see them
As an American woman with armpit hair, I get a lot of unsolicited comments.
It would be nice if there were more representation of adult women’s bodies in media.
I’m sorry, you shouldn’t have to put up with that
What the fuck is wrong with people?
In this case? Misogyny.
People take issue when women don’t contort themselves into a socially accepted image.