Birds be getting freaky

Literally any community that is mostly women when someone complains about a guy issue

If it’s a women’s community, that’s very understandable. A man will find better answers for a guy issue in a men’s community. Same as if a woman posted a women’s issue in a men’s community - it would be inappropriate and out of place.

Is this community mostly men or a men’s community and thus women are not allowed to post from their perspective? Must women center men or include men in every post in this community?

I’m honestly asking for examples and you keep conjuring strawmen to fight instead of actually engaging with me.

You made the claim that the reverse happens all the time in this community and I was simply asking for examples.

you’re like “No, that doesn’t happen because I haven’t seen it.” Basically doing the thing you say doesn’t happen.

Where did I say this?

It’s easy internet points on Lemmy to do this song and dance of punching down on US citizens for seemingly not doing anything to fight the current administration.

There’s a lot of ways to do so that get ignored in threads like these.

Ooh so edgy.

You’re having a discussion with me. I haven’t used that argument against you. You’re fighting strawmen.

I haven’t used that argument and I’m not all women.

I think these types of conversations can be very reductive and being inside of the US, I see more dissent and pushback than is sometimes expressed here. So yeah, I’m not so much doing the empire’s propaganda for them as defending the people here actually doing the work you’re all begging us to do.

Also thanks for engaging in a respectful discussion with me. I know this topic is touchy.

Okay, so now that’s clarified

Oh, I thought I had clarified this already with you. You already agreed with me.

“It’s a safe space for both. It’s not a “male safe space” any more than it is a “female safe space”.”

And the mods agree with me.

You can’t just lump all men in as “the patriarchy,” that doesn’t even align with the perspectives in actual feminist literature.

Where did I lump all men in as “the patriarchy”? It’s not fair to lob an accusation and then say it’s in subtle undertones. Subtle undertones where? In what comment?

By the way, reinforcing patriarchal standards of toxic masculinity (such as "men can’t/shouldn’t talk about their problems or their feelings) is participating in patriarchy. Way to go.

Another specific accusation. Where did I say men can’t or shouldn’t talk about their problems or feelings? Which comments contain the microaggressions suggesting this?

Feel free to share. Where have I contradicted myself?

So it will take about 5 months for that to happen in the reverse and the woman in question will be heavily downvoted?

Ok.

This is so fucking funny lol

You brought up a very specific scenario:

Sure, make a post about guys and see how long it takes these same users to comment saying “why is this unnecessarily gendered?!? Women experience this too!” Or even “That’s not an issue men face! It’s clearly a women’s issue.”

Can you share posts that men have made from their perspective where women came in and asked why it’s gendered?

Like what happened in this post.

If it happens all the time in this community, you would be able to share something with me. I’m honestly curious because I haven’t seen that kind of reaction here.

“You said it happens all the time. Can you show me what you’re talking about?” to a woman who says she’s experienced a pattern of treatment by society.

And I would be able to pull up quite a few examples, including this post right here.

You said it happens all the time. Can you show me what you’re talking about?

Can you show me an example of this happening in this community?

Because we have men actually asking “what about men?” in this thread right here. It’s not theoretical, it actually happened.

No, I’m not.

No, I don’t attend or participate in any of that.

Yes, I have.

I don’t really need to prove to you that I’m rebelling in the right ways though. It’s a lot more nuanced and complicated than a lot of these comments want to make it out to be. There’s way more people here that are against the status quo than you want to believe, I think. This stuff doesn’t happen overnight.