• someoneelse@lemmy.ml
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    1 hour ago

    So, from your words and trying to summarize what you have been saying:

    • A revolutionary action can only happen if directed by an organized group with very clear political theory behind them.
    • The act of organizing is revolutionary in itself even if completely open and legal.
    • A person outside organized groups and with no deep political knowledge cannot commit a revolutionary act, even if it is the same act that a politically organized group would have carried out.

    Do I have that correctly? Please tell me if I got any of those points wrong.

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      60 minutes ago

      Revolutionary action is action that advances the revolutionary struggle. A random individual acting alone is not advancing the revololutionary struggle.

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        53 minutes ago

        Even if it is the same action that a revolutionary committee would dictate?

        And please define what you mean by revolutionary struggle. I don’t want to make assumptions.

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          13 minutes ago

          You are trying to make the argument that the group planning doesn’t matter, the action does. I am telling you that assassination can only ever be revolutionary if it fits in the context of a revolutionary movement, and isn’t just sporadic violence. Lenin went over this a century ago and it’s still nearly the same.

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            3 minutes ago

            I am not making that argument at all. I saying that until action has taken place that effects a reaction, everything until that point is not revolutionary action. I never said it doesn’t matter, or that it isn’t necessary, just that making your backpack for a hike is not hiking, as necessary as it might be.

            The second part, which you keep dodging is that any action “fitting the context of a revolutionary movement” can be labeled revolutionary even if carried out by a person outside of a revolutionary organization.

            This is why I tried, unsuccessfully, to get you to define your words.