Microsoft’s research team studied this extensively. They looked at what actually happens when you enforce complexity requirements. Users don’t create randomly generated passwords. They follow predictable patterns. Capital letter at the start. Numbers at the end. Exclamation point at the very end. The word “Password” appears in about eight percent of “complex” passwords. When you force rotation, users increment numbers. Summer2024 becomes Fall2024. Or they add exclamation points. Or they change a single character and call it done. The false sense of security is dangerous. IT departments see compliance numbers go up. Everyone is following the password policy. The auditors are happy. Meanwhile, actual security hasn’t improved at all.

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    I was so happy when we finally hired a director of security and the first thing he did was stop forcing us to rotate passwords every month.

    It was so fucking insane.

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      Even NIST stopped recommending pw rotations.

      To their credit, none of the businesses I have a pw for require changes anymore. Also, to their credit, I can use long pw’s now. Some used to restrict to 8 chars max (!?) But against their credit, many still restrict the pw content, like you can’t use non-letter symbols or w/e.

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        It’s monthly at my company. Combined with other complexity requirements, it’s pushed everyone into such predictable patterns that I could probably guess my way into any manager’s PC in probably a few minutes.

        Also, there’s no lockdown after X attempts. I can try infinitely, as far as I’m aware.

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        Our organization got hacked and there was about a year after where CISO had us changing passwords every two weeks.

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          It was commonly 90 days for regular user accounts, and 30 days for admin/privileged accounts.

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            with automated password rotation, and no api access (no permission to use api access, that is) to the keyvault. And they expected us to automate stuff too!