Young people have too many emotions and can’t be trusted with decision-making, the country’s minister of climate change, Ali Shareef, last year told a public forum.

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    14 hours ago

    sometimes change needs to happen for better or worse

    Change for worse is not a good thing.

    Arguing otherwise is arguing against a tautology.

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      If the US survives Trump, I believe the country will be changing for the better longer term.

      Lack of voter engagement makes progressive populism policy hard to pass. If there’s a sense of “we’re the most free country in the world, things may not be perfect, but things are better than they would be elsewhere” then the engagement required for change won’t happen.

      If things are worse than a year ago, then people might start realizing the government isn’t working and be forced to be more engaged which allows more populism progressive policy to rise to the top.

      Climate change is similar, it’s been talked about for so long that until it gets to be nearly unhabitable many people won’t get on board with its existence. But when they do they’ll be fully on board.

      Whether the rubber band will bounce back before its too late, idk, could snap. But if we survive.the worst change, the good change will come.

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        The U.S. already witnessed the damage and chaos of a Trumpster Fire presidency.

        After 4 years of progress under Biden, it voted for more damage and chaos.

        Americans are humans, and humans are all too often short-termist, irrational, and destructive.

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          Biden was the most progressive president since at least 1981.

          Many people felt he wasn’t progressive enough. The current primary elections are swinging far more progressive than their equivalents in 2018. It should be expected that the next democratically elected president will be more progressive than Biden. Whether they will be progressive enough and effective enough to create long lasting power like when FDRs New Deal dominated politics from 1933-1969. If you do enough damage to the economy, a generation will learn.

          Similarly, it took two world wars to learn how to prevent a 3rd, in the relative short term anyways.

          Memories remember differences. Trumps second presidency is much worse than his first. It will be more memorable. People are becoming more engaged.

          Its entirely possible this is the end of the US as we know it, but its also entirely possible that this era will usher in a New Deal-esque progressivism that a generation remembers for life.

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      Not really, you neglect time as a factor. Sometimes things are stuck and only short term solutions that are objectively worse are acceptable.

      Also look up tautology, the word change does not have any inherent value, therefore you are using that wrong. ;)

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        12 hours ago

        Having studied formal logic, I’m well aware of what a tautology is. It is a statement logically equivalent to A = A.

        Relevance here: a bad outcome is a bad outcome (regardless whether it happens now or later).