• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Is it Justice or Just Us?

    Easy to recognize that you’re vulnerable, disenfranchised, and overworked/underpaid. Easy to recognize how the system fucks you over specifically or structurally disadvantages you as a member of a demographic or class cohort. Comparatively hard to deal with someone on the other side of the tracks, with radically different experiences and beliefs, and build a sense of collective justice between you.

    Idk how many young people come out with a holistic sense of injustice. I see a lot of “if you were just doing things more like me, you’d have a reason to complain” but comparatively little “I’m not here to question your circumstances, I’m just here for the solidarity for the cause”.

    The /c/LeopardsAteMyFace channel is choke full of people who get off on the schadenfreude of the modern moment. Meanwhile, on the chud sites, you see plenty of folks who express a personal sense of injustice jerking it with abandon to military snuff films and economic sob stories.

    If that’s your sense of Justice, no wonder you’re going insane.

    • Ey ich frag doch nur@lemmy.world
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      22 hours ago

      You are generally questioning the concept of a sense of justice because you think all other people on the internet you see are friends? No wonder you’re going insane.

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        22 hours ago

        questioning the concept of a sense of justice

        I’ve seen everyone from Malala Yousafzai to Alex Jones express a “sense of justice”. The problem of “sensing” justice is that our senses routinely deceive us.

        you think all other people on the internet you see are friends?

        What?

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          19 hours ago

          My take is that we all want justice, but some want justic only for themselves or whatever little demographic they’ve built their identity around.

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          21 hours ago

          So yes, people are different. You don’t have to agree on anyone to have your own opinions and defend it. It’s the same with moral. Don’t you have any? Because you don’t trust yourself? Dude you’re allowed to speak up for yourself and others, just like everyone else.

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            21 hours ago

            You don’t have to agree on anyone to have your own opinions and defend it.

            That’s very different than taking sadistic delight at their suffering.

            Dude you’re allowed to speak up for yourself and others, just like everyone else.

            Setting aside the fact that you’re generally not allowed, either by social convention or strict censorship policies? Just being loudly in opposition isn’t the same as being justice-minded.

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              21 hours ago

              That’s very different than taking sadistic delight at their suffering.

              ?

              What is moral for you, what is you ethos based on, if not on a feeling of wrong and right? Are you saying you are a computer?

              Setting aside the fact that you’re generally not allowed, either by social convention or strict censorship policies?

              You are, people will even listen if you’re not only always being loudly.

              Morality exists, get over it lol

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                21 hours ago

                What is moral for you, what is you ethos based on, if not on a feeling of wrong and right?

                There is a difference between having a sense of justice and wanting a feeling of vengance.

                You are, people will even listen if you’re not only always being loudly.

                When you’re in a loud room, you must shout to be heard. And if you’re gagged in a loud room, nobody is hearing you regardless of your speaking savvy.