I have always found it bonkers that people hold it against politicians who change their opinions. Isn’t that supposed to be a good thing, and considered personal growth?
Edit: Gee, really riled some feathers with this comment. Ya’ll can stop lecturing me now about how naive I am.
a politician that changes to where the wind blows conveniently during an election is literally conning you. they will flip back to abuse their station just as fast IF NOT FASTER then the switch to the bandwagon. the whole point is to get elected in. the fact you can’t tell it’s disingenuous or refuse is damming for people as a whole. you can see the choices that lead her to this point, you KNOW her mind. there are uncountable options of people not as duplicitous who actually believe what they would run for.
I 100% believe that she and everyone in the Biden administration knew that Israel was committing a genocide with Biden’s enthusiastic help. She didn’t have the courage to speak up even after Biden was out of the picture. The complete fecklessness of centrist Democrats has gifted America years of Republican control.
She had ample opportunities to do good and to stand by higher moral standard. There is a difference between messing up on political technicalities (I thought this was a good idea, I don’t anymore) and failing on core principles.
Also I think it’s fair to avoid people who have failed a lot, sure they might have learnt from it, but maybe they are just not very smart and competent at that job ?
The problem is trust. They can say whatever the hell they want if they think it’s gonna get them elected but then not follow through. I’m not gonna trust someone who up until now thought killing children was totally cool. I’m also not going to trust someone who’s been taking corporate money, especially if they still are.
Would it be nice if they changed their position? Sure. But why does it need to be them in power? There are over 300 million people in this country. There are plenty of them that never thought killing children was cool. Plenty who have never taken corporate political donations. Plenty who better represent the majority class. Teachers, union organizers, former baristas, etc. A lot of them could do a better job than these opportunistic ghouls. Why do we need the same rotating cast of legacy politicians constantly getting into power when they’re the people who got us here in the first place?
Besides, we shouldn’t need to reward them for eventually coming around to the right position if it’s a genuine belief and not just trying to catch the shifting political winds. If it’s genuine, good for them! Even setting aside the effect these beliefs have on other people, it must be truly toxic to the soul to believe in such callous things. May they go on to live a happier life way the fuck away from all of us. Actually, if they want to go back some actual socialists, I’d be cool with that too.
EDIT: Actually, now that I’m thinking about it, it’s fine if people who weren’t gov officials with a hand in the genocide want to change their positions. Saying Kamala and those like her were “cool” with genocide is woefully understating what they did. They participated in it. Regardless of any change in views, these are people who all deserve to be put on trial for what they’ve done. Let them think about it from inside a jail cell.
Didn’t say I wanted to vote for her, but anybody is better than the Trump administration right now. A pile of rocks would do less damage than this administration.
The problem is that, due to the structure of our political institutions, you cannot trust that they have truly changed their opinions. It is far more likely that they are providing lip service in order to obtain a position of power and authority.
Sucks when that happens doesn’t it? They all have valid points, but nobody ever reads the responses before responding themselves. So you wind up getting 5 people saying the same thing.
I have always found it bonkers that people hold it against politicians who change their opinions. Isn’t that supposed to be a good thing, and considered personal growth?
Edit: Gee, really riled some feathers with this comment. Ya’ll can stop lecturing me now about how naive I am.
a politician that changes to where the wind blows conveniently during an election is literally conning you. they will flip back to abuse their station just as fast IF NOT FASTER then the switch to the bandwagon. the whole point is to get elected in. the fact you can’t tell it’s disingenuous or refuse is damming for people as a whole. you can see the choices that lead her to this point, you KNOW her mind. there are uncountable options of people not as duplicitous who actually believe what they would run for.
I 100% believe that she and everyone in the Biden administration knew that Israel was committing a genocide with Biden’s enthusiastic help. She didn’t have the courage to speak up even after Biden was out of the picture. The complete fecklessness of centrist Democrats has gifted America years of Republican control.
She had ample opportunities to do good and to stand by higher moral standard. There is a difference between messing up on political technicalities (I thought this was a good idea, I don’t anymore) and failing on core principles.
Also I think it’s fair to avoid people who have failed a lot, sure they might have learnt from it, but maybe they are just not very smart and competent at that job ?
The problem is trust. They can say whatever the hell they want if they think it’s gonna get them elected but then not follow through. I’m not gonna trust someone who up until now thought killing children was totally cool. I’m also not going to trust someone who’s been taking corporate money, especially if they still are.
Would it be nice if they changed their position? Sure. But why does it need to be them in power? There are over 300 million people in this country. There are plenty of them that never thought killing children was cool. Plenty who have never taken corporate political donations. Plenty who better represent the majority class. Teachers, union organizers, former baristas, etc. A lot of them could do a better job than these opportunistic ghouls. Why do we need the same rotating cast of legacy politicians constantly getting into power when they’re the people who got us here in the first place?
Besides, we shouldn’t need to reward them for eventually coming around to the right position if it’s a genuine belief and not just trying to catch the shifting political winds. If it’s genuine, good for them! Even setting aside the effect these beliefs have on other people, it must be truly toxic to the soul to believe in such callous things. May they go on to live a happier life way the fuck away from all of us. Actually, if they want to go back some actual socialists, I’d be cool with that too.
EDIT: Actually, now that I’m thinking about it, it’s fine if people who weren’t gov officials with a hand in the genocide want to change their positions. Saying Kamala and those like her were “cool” with genocide is woefully understating what they did. They participated in it. Regardless of any change in views, these are people who all deserve to be put on trial for what they’ve done. Let them think about it from inside a jail cell.
There’s no shortage of politicians.
Didn’t say I wanted to vote for her, but anybody is better than the Trump administration right now. A pile of rocks would do less damage than this administration.
I’m not only talking about her. And if the sum whole of our vision is less worse we’ll lose again.
The problem is that, due to the structure of our political institutions, you cannot trust that they have truly changed their opinions. It is far more likely that they are providing lip service in order to obtain a position of power and authority.
If you think that’s what’s happening, you are very naive.
Do you know what gaslighting is?
Do you have anything resembling a coherent argument for why “politicians changing their stance” is gaslighting?
Isn’t this what conservatives do all the time to defend pedophile in charge, well knowing he’s is a racists, misogynist, fraud and pedophile?
But if Trump says he isn’t, he must be telling the truth and that’s supposed to be a good thing, and considered personal growth, right? right?
Please don’t be this gullible. It’s bonkers, it even has to be said. Actions speak louder than words.
Saying what people want to hear is what they’re fucking trained to do.
Of that doesn’t ring a bell, then oh well.
Sucks when that happens doesn’t it? They all have valid points, but nobody ever reads the responses before responding themselves. So you wind up getting 5 people saying the same thing.