I mean, they’ve been trying it since gen 7, I don’t know how it’s a major surprise to anyone who has any interest in console gaming
Anywho, as someone who was primarily a console gamer when I was a kid, getting a gaming PC was probably the best gaming investment I’ve made; the experience is just way better in every way
I also want to point out: if the main impediment is the ability to play games comfortably with a controller on TV, my wife and I are currently playing Cyberpunl 2077, modded, on a TV, in a different room of the house, using a playstation 5 controller.
both Steam Link and Apollo/Moonlight (I found Apollo’s setup of virtual displays out of the box to bw superior) work very well.
I have my PC hooked up to the TV via HDMI, and I had no issues gaming on it with my dualshock 4 controller either :3. I’ve not dabbled too much into casting/streaming video from desktop to TV
(Plus I found the software for controllers on PC to offer way more capabilities/power than what I could do on the playstation, which is nice as I play all my games on controller even when sitting at my desk)
I kinda hope consoles will just die.
Because half of what’s making PC games such unoptimized shit is that game developers develop for console first, then do a shitty unoptimized port for the PC version. “Just run it through a compatibility layer! Why not a full-blown emulator? PCs have more performance than consoles, so they can handle it! If they don’t like gaming at 1080p 12fps, they should just upgrade to dual 5090s! It runs fine on our dev’s $20,000 workstation!”
If they built the game for PC in the first place, about half of the optimization problems and egregiously bad performance in new releases could be alleviated.
(Only half, though. We still need to contend with rushed delivery schedules that make optimization something devs don’t have time for, sheer laziness, and now AI slop in the code as well.)
I mean, the only thing keeping them alive is honestly the fact they’re sold as a loss. If they ever for whatever reason stop doing that, they will probably just die, cause otherwise they’re just worse than getting a regular computer =w=
Though with the price increases and with the decline of AAA quality they might just die despite that, who knows
Xbox is already being discontinued entirely. Nintendo is off on their own, doing Nintendo things and not really competing with traditional ‘consoles’ anymore. (With Nintendo, it’s more about playing Nintendo’s own games, which are basically all exclusives. And nobody’s buying a Switch 2 to play games that aren’t Switch 2 exclusive. Maybe you’ll play a few cross-platform games on it if you already have one, but nobody is buying a Switch for that. You buy a Switch because you want to play the latest Pokemon, Mario, or Zelda, and that’s the only way you can play them.)
Playstation is the only traditional console still in operation. And they’re getting quite expensive. And they’re making decisions that are very unpopular with consumers. And, for the most part, their exclusives aren’t exactly ‘must haves’. It’s getting really difficult to justify buying a Playstation versus buying a budget gaming PC. (After all, the PC has a lot of ‘exclusives’ of its own – games that the Playstation will never have access to. And it does all the computer things, too.)
I do actually think consoles are on their way out. Playstation will probably die within the next decade as well, which will leave Nintendo the only one left standing, the final victor of the Console Wars. But since Nintendo relies so heavily on exclusives, they’re not going to be competing very much with PC gaming. And maybe game developers will finally stop developing for console first, instead developing for PC first, and then maybe considering porting it to Switch 3 if it looks financially feasible.
Steam machines are going to finish consoles off in about 5 years.
I mean… I’d definitely rather have a steam machine over a ps5… the general public from what I’ve seen haven’t had the best opinions on it tho. I suppose it’s to be seen how it shakes out long(er) term
Isn’t the Steam Machine much more expensive than most consoles?
For now
yes, but that doesnt need to be the case if valve doesnt want it to be most their money is off game sales so.
I grew up with a PC so it always seemed normal to me, I guess I was lucky that way. I’m honestly surprised that Sony didn’t announce this at the launch of the ps5. Console always seemed nerfed to me.
To be honest, I think they were potentially planning or wanting to only go with the digital-only ps5, but after seeing backlash to the idea they went with both the diskless and disk-drive ps5’s to “test the waters” as it were. There’s been a few digital only consoles like the psp go, and the diskless xbox one s, but those as far as I remembered underperformed in terms of sales numbers. If the digital-only ps5 sold well enough or if they observed a general trend of people buying digital on the ps5 it could’ve been the deciding factor that has made them more confident in going forward with it
We shouldn’t take for granted how open and customizable PC gaming is. If things had gone the way Microsoft wanted we’d be paying a monthly online subscription for games with P2P matchmaking and every single one would need to be purchased and installed through the restrictive and utterly useless Xbox store.
Ngl I must thank Gaben for reading the writing on the wall and propping up linux.
I just left windows for Linux. With all the new development it’s pretty great.
“Cyberpunk is cheaper on PS5 than PC due to secondary market”
Literally free on PC.
Maybe it’s time to petition politicians in jurisdictions like the EU and Brazil where third-party app stores are legally mandated for mobile platforms to stop exempting game consoles from this regulation. If Sony were forced to allow Steam/Epic/GoG on the PS6, it would make the platform a lot more consumer friendly.
The JP-only PS5 model is 350USD new, the non-digital international one is 650. I kinda wonder if Sony is fine with losing the people who aren’t basically captive if it means they can milk the ones who are going to buy no matter what due to price insensitivity.
~10% of consumers represent 50% of consumer spending, and as this increases, business models that fleece the wealthy and completely exclude the poor become more competitive while spending money developing a product most people want and can afford less, as “most people” can afford much less than the top end.
I started using headcrab updater to install slssteam and ensure steam is held to the latest compatible version, and move installed repacks to the steamapps/common/game location for more seamless usage. I have this working on my bazzite steam deck (haven’t personally tested steamos but it should work) and my cachy desktop and even VR works without extra stuff this way since some recent steamvr updates made pc to standalone headset not suck in linux.
Even if you aren’t a pirate pc poweruser Slssteam also lets you bypass family library usage restrictions and everyone can play one copy of a game at the same time, including online gameplay. I did a few rounds of slay the spire 2 where my brother and I each played 2 characters to test, and a friend did a solo 4 player this way as well.
I mean I have both, but you better bring your wallet if you want to PC game. Especially as of late.
Except you don’t have to pay a $110/year subscription on PC. That adds up fast. Nor do you need the highest end hardware.
And the price of the PS6 is expected to be >$1000
I don’t pay a subscription on PS5 either. Not everyone online games.
I just happened to be at a computer store the other day, 64gb of ddr5 ram was going to run you about $1200-1600 Canadian dollars. That’s just the ram, and if you are going to be building a PC right now, thats what you are going to want going forward. Even if a PS6 is $1k, it’s still the better buy if this stuff continues, subscriptions and all. Even a lower end gaming PC is going to likely (well)exceed $2k at these prices.
I mean my computer is a few years old now, it was pretty decent spec at the time (5800x3d/128gb Ram DDR4/5070ti). The issue is, when the hottest new game releases on PC, it’s often so poorly optimized that for the next couple of months it chugs, on higher end stuff let alone bottom tier stuff. It’s something that isn’t talked about as much, but PC releases (especially AAA) are more often than not released with poor builds that are fraught with issues that you just don’t seem to get quite as much at the console level.
Not to mention that PC games are all digital now too. It’s all the same issues, problems and behaviours. I don’t like it either, but my point is gaming isn’t perfect in PC land either.
Not to mention that PC games are all digital now too. It’s all the same issues, problems and behaviours. I don’t like it either, but my point is gaming isn’t perfect in PC land either.
Except PC is an open market place. Consoles are not. On consoles, used games often served as the competition to prevent costs from going insane.
64gb of ddr5 ram was going to run you about $1200-1600 Canadian dollars. That’s just the ram, and if you are going to be building a PC right now, thats what you are going to want going forward
You do not need 64gb of RAM for gaming. You don’t even need 32gb, especially if you aren’t using an unoptimized ram-sucking OS like W11. 90% of your argument hinges on these overinflated numbers
Ruh-roh. You’re gonna hate steam.
/s
I really don’t get this outrage thing. Outrage because all eggs become expensive? Yes, because they are close to essential, or at least very important for a lot of people’s diet, and they all get more expensive. Outrage for some game platform shenanigans? Don’t give them your fucking money.
But you can still get physical eggs. You won’t be able to get physical games.
The store can’t just say “hey the eggs in your fridge are no longer yours”.
That’s the difference.
If you look, the same user has been flooding this space with game disc agitprop for at least the last day. This space is only tangentially related to gaming so why here and why so much? I can’t decide if they’re just passionate or working towards a goal.
People’s priorities are all fucked up. Even on this site.
I mean, the main use of optical discs is to rip them in a HDD.
