I’ve been on Lemmy for about 2 weeks now, and I’ve noticed a trend:
The VAST majority of posts that mention AI in any manner are some dig or criticism or some other negative commentary, and the rare ones that have anything positive to say about it almost always have negative whatever-Lemmy’s-version-of-karma-is.
I get that AI isn’t without its problems, especially Grok with that “Mechahitler” nonsense a bit ago, but there seems to be particular vitriol here. I’m genuinely curious to know why people hate it so much here.
I think most of the hate is because of it being touted as better than humans and shoved down everyone’s throats.
As for AI itself , it’s just a tool like any other. Use it wisely.
I really don’t understand how people can be so blinded by hopium that they cannot see the blindingly obvious consequences of allowing this insane tech to co-opt our planet, at the behest of the most powerful and evil people to ever live.
There may be use cases for this tech but it not worth it to sacrifice the entirety of our natural world to be ground up and processed to feed this behemoth. It is purely wishful thinking that this will solve everything and they are willing to pay ANYTHING to try it. They are gambling with the planet and it’s like 2% chance they win, otherwise life dies.
We were told 15 years ago, that we had a decade to change course to prevent CATASTROPHIC heating of the planet and degradation of the environment. Instead of doing really anything about that, we have exponentially increased out energy needs and fuel/water usage. Now with ai, we are doing it all over again in the span of a few years. Please explain with mathematics, how we get out of this trap of thermodynamics and not all die from heat? How does ai save us? Does it get us closer in any way? Or is it so that the elites can goon a little harder and try to fill the void inside them with yet more money?
A question to the OP: After reading all of these comments, varying from emotional reaction to well reasoned assessment, all valid whether positive or negative, has this experiment helped you answer your question or changed your views on AI at all in retrospect? There’s nothing I can add that hasn’t already been said in one way or another by someone else, but I’m cruious if this is just a bait thread or you’re actually posing this question in good faith with a mind open to change… If it’s the latter I want to know your nuanced opinion.
Because it is a massive financial scam built on a lame cult.
Put the AI critique aside for a moment. Many people on lemmy dont like algorithms managing their feed. There’s probably a big overlap between people who are pervasively sensitive to dark algorithms and people who perceive AI as a dark algorithm parlor trick .
If you can’t tell that the outputs are bad then you just have bad taste. People hate it because it sucks and it drowns out what’s real.
Because the entire point of it is to extract capital without having to pay for labor. That’s what the push to develop it is. Of course it’s losing money, once the companies that are training it think they can, it won’t matter that they lost money, because they’ll be able to print money for free after it’s fully cooked.
It’s also fucking lazy to use it. Exercise your brain. Think thoughts for yourself. Improve yourself to the point where you don’t need to have a machine organize your thoughts for you.
AI is great. AI under capitalism is awful.
i don’t particularly enjoy having to constantly question what’s real and what isn’t anymore.
i don’t particularly enjoy having humanity’s well of information undermined by disinformation factories.
i don’t particularly enjoy every space i had to express myself creatively and experience others expressing themselves creatively being drowned out in mass-produced incoherent slop that i cannot possibly connect with.
i don’t particularly enjoy that climate change has now been rapidly accelerated for the sake of a tool that’s completely unreliable at doing anything it’s marketed to do and has done irreversible damage to the very fabric of our society.
do you?
Im an AI engineer and even I hate AI. When I say AI, I mean LLMs specifically. It definitely has its use cases. LLMs are pretty good at parsing unstructured data, and generating boilerplate code, but that’s about it. Every other use case is a combination of buzzword bingo and slop generation.
AI, uses a tremendous amount of energy, produces an ungodly amount of heat and noise, and pollutes potable drinking water. The overreliance on LLMs for everything is lazy at best and sloppy at worst. LLMs are being applied in scenarios where I could have built a deep learning model that would fit comfortably on a laptop from 2018, and doing a worse job at predictions at that.
Ignoring the fact that they were trained on a ton of copyrighted data, which was labeled for dollars a day by humans in poorer countries, and regularly gets basic information wrong. Yeah, it fucking sucks. And the only people who stand to benefit from it are about a half dozen tech companies who are taking contracts with the US government to track citizens both online and IRL.
Because it sucks ass, fucking duh
Because it’s a technology wielded by the most powerful to harm the rest of us.
Been around long enough to know that we are being sold on a lie that’s real purpose is extracting wealth at the fastest rate possible from the lower 99% while providing unknown risks and low likelihood of benefits to most of the population. The only “AI” that currently works well is a very fast database searcher. It is better than a human at that task but requires humans to create the database and all the information in it first in order for it to work. The only “AI” that seems to be possibly “thinking” for itself is hopeless, wrong, and/or very destructive.
Mostly because it was trained on everyone’s stolen data but then the elite are gatekeeping it. Combined with mass theft of public funds in order to fund their AI and the billionaires end goal to create a dystopian tech overlord society.
Also when the AI hallucinates it’s extremely annoying.
I get that AI isn’t without its problems, especially Grok with that “Mechahitler” nonsense a bit ago, but there seems to be particular vitriol here. I’m genuinely curious to know why people hate it so much here.
The internet has gotten a lot worse at nuance. People don’t know how to have a perspective other than pro or anti for controversial things, and if you’re going to think of AI as a brand with a team then the team it seems associated with is big tech fascists, a group Lemmy’s userbase will naturally regard as an enemy. Similar story as with cryptocurrency, it’s seen as a brand, and associated with all the negative things that are done with it. Technologies are seen as themselves having a moral stance.
