There is really not much to be said.

North korea, russia praise is destructive.

The critique of those regions is obviously not “pro west” as is evident to anyone with a cell in their skull.

It just wastes all time.

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    exactly why if you want to run counterprop you have to set some boundaries

    …which are already in place. This is a leftist-controlled space, is it not? And the rules there on the right gives the mods more than enough leeway to keep it that way, don’t you think?

    What it really comes down to, I’m beginning to think, is our willingness (or lack thereof) to engage the very people we (supposedly) want to expose to leftist thought.

    by giving fascist nonsense presence we shift what the outcome of social osmosis is when people encounter verbal confirmation in space.

    That only happens when we don’t engage them by siloing ourselves into circlejerks. A good counter-narrative means absolutely nothing if it has no means of leaving said silo - we’re just chucking energy and time at the choir for absolutely zero gain.

    but that discussion needs to be had in good faith

    No, it doesn’t. You need half of the discussion to be, very obviously, in bad faith. Otherwise, there’s absolutely nothing to shoot down, is there? You don’t get traction from good faith discussion - you get traction from a “bad faith” narrative being demolished with a narrative the casual observer is unlikely to have encountered before. How many movies have you seen where only two protagonists spend the entire movie being nice to each other? There’s a really good reason why they don’t make movies like that - there’d be nothing to see.

    the old age addage of “block and report. do not feed the trolls” stems from this notion

    Where’s the fun in that?