You should be more responsible

Just because the nationalists claim working class aesthetics, it doesnt change anything, this hypothetical educated individual is capable of betraying the working class with nationalist politics, and to say that applying the same brush to different regions is naive is just to provide room for the true naive statement that those “unreported” regions are better suited for nationalism.

And you assumed my position on ukraine without asking, or in fact the general anarchist stance. Anarchists do not support ukranian nationalism despite the common desire between anarchists to prefer to support individuals in the ukranian nationalist supported region.

But it is not always true, and I hope that anarchists develop ties across the nationalist drawn borders. There are clearly wonderful people squandered in the russian region. Please do not mistake the brave individuals in organisations such as “solidarity collectives” for idiots rather than people forced by the ukranian nationalists into allying with the ukranian nationalists under their circumstance. In any case they clearly try to maintain seperation if you follow their efforts and if you would analyse the situation outside of a big money news corp line, it is clear that the choice to shoot and bomb the incoming soldiers is sensical, despite their class interest.

That then does not make those people nationalists, and people in less stressed theoretical circumstance absolutely should not propose nationalism in their name. And I do not like your line of singling out ukraine to this as to slyly construct a racist strawman.

Well maybe they could be less attached to their homes and move, or rally elsewhere and return, but it is not silly to be attached to a loved environment.

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the national identity is their tie to their local oppressors, they are not close to it one bit There is nuance in many things, even dead ends

I just scrolled for 2 seconds on the front page, unless they have all been deleted or something in reaction

But what benefit does constant refutation have really, the individuals in leninist dominated regions are sufficiently supported by their support under the conception of the international proletariat, they are not intrinsically members of a nation and the support of that nation does not translate into their liberation.

The statements in the last paragraph are reasonable, they are just truthful, they are not trying to divert effort towards dictatorship, just contextualise the world, it is easy to note the difference in my opinion

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In terms of talking, I think that one can forgo democracy and just take orders, but I also believe that people have a responsibility to not contribute to a labour pool ready to take orders because that leaves the system volatile to capture by a hierarchical current. But I guess you can be smart about where you take orders from and make sure you are taking them from a democratic body. And wishes of a council can be published in easily parsible formats.