I use Zen with multiple windows and love the way it works? It’s far from pointless, this is better than it used to be, especially combined with workspaces
I use multiple windows specifically because I want different tabs in them. With this “feature”, we have the clutter of all tabs in all windows which makes it harder to find the one you’re looking for. Screen sharing can leak tabs you didn’t mean to show during presentations; videos playing on another screen would switch screens as you try to find the right tab; and those of us who never cared about workspaces were forced to use them.
But again, the main issue is this was an extremely opinionated change that forces people to change their workflow and was pushed to all users with no way to disable it. I had been using Zen for almost a year at that point, and, what was supposed to be a minor update made it extremely frustrating to use.
You can either take ten seconds to make a “window 1” and “window 2” workspace and then never touch the feature again, or you’re better off not using Zen. It’s not just about vertical tabs, workspaces are pretty core to how you’re supposed to interact with it and are incredibly powerful once you embrace them.
I keep reading this argument that “it’s incredibly powerful” with no concrete examples. I don’t want a powerful browser, I want it to get out of my way.
Yes. Zen Browser. Its fantastic once your brain adjusts to vertical tabs.
I prefer vertical tabs. Don’t kill me!
I do now. It just took a while to realize it.
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I use Zen with multiple windows and love the way it works? It’s far from pointless, this is better than it used to be, especially combined with workspaces
I use multiple windows specifically because I want different tabs in them. With this “feature”, we have the clutter of all tabs in all windows which makes it harder to find the one you’re looking for. Screen sharing can leak tabs you didn’t mean to show during presentations; videos playing on another screen would switch screens as you try to find the right tab; and those of us who never cared about workspaces were forced to use them.
But again, the main issue is this was an extremely opinionated change that forces people to change their workflow and was pushed to all users with no way to disable it. I had been using Zen for almost a year at that point, and, what was supposed to be a minor update made it extremely frustrating to use.
Use different workspaces in different windows and your problem is gone. You only see the shared tabs if your windows are on the same workspace.
see, that’s the thing, I don’t care about workspaces and I don’t want yet another concept to manage when basic windows already do that job.
Tab syncing + workspaces force a different workflow to solve problems I don’t have.
You can either take ten seconds to make a “window 1” and “window 2” workspace and then never touch the feature again, or you’re better off not using Zen. It’s not just about vertical tabs, workspaces are pretty core to how you’re supposed to interact with it and are incredibly powerful once you embrace them.
I keep reading this argument that “it’s incredibly powerful” with no concrete examples. I don’t want a powerful browser, I want it to get out of my way.