• hubobes@piefed.europe.pub
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    24 hours ago

    None of these seem to support your original claim of ethnic cleansing. The war crimes seem to be well documented on both sides and the ones responsible must face justice but that does not lead to the conclusion that there is or was ethnic cleansing being conducted.

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      You’re right Poroshenko saying they will live in cellars and Ukraine bombing civilian population since 2014 absolutely does not say ethnic cleansing. There’s a literal statement of intent there to remove Russian speaking population. And then there’s a genocide case at the UN. I bet you haven’t even opened a single link before writing your vapid comment.

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        Poroshenko saying stupid shit does not proof your claim in any way. And you mean the case submitted by Ukraine at the ICJ where the ICJ stated that it had found no evidence of a genocide of Russians by Ukraine?

        Also Poroshenko was describing the current situation in Donbas under the occupation by pro-Russian militants, not declaring a future policy.

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          The only good thing to come out of this Ukraine war is the absolute economic destruction of the EU. Sure, Russia suffered as well, but I’m just really glad Europe will soon become irrelevant for the most part. Not that they don’t deserve worse, but we’ll settle for irrelevance

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              The eu steals from its members and gives to germany & co. They also engage in election manipulation. Destroying it liberates the people in the non-core eu countries from those thieves. Therefore, not accelerationism.

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                Wanting to destroy a system to liberate people from it is literally the definition of accelerationism regardless of what you call it.

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          Sure buddy, the president saying the regime aims to commit ethnic cleansing while they openly attack civilians doesn’t prove shit. You keep on telling yourself that. I love also immediately rush to how you dehumanize the victims as ‘pro-Russian’ militants. Oh and of course, we can just look at what’s happening in Ukraine today, I can only assume your firm support must be over shared values https://nv.ua/ukr/lifestyle/spisok-pidarasiv-u-budanova-pomitili-nezvichniy-bloknot-50603357.html

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            23 hours ago

            I mean he did not say what you claim as I have already told you. Simply repeating it does not make it true.

            Also I have no clue what you try to tell me with that article.

            So where are we on ethnic cleansing? Still nowhere it seems.

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              I don’t know where are we on ethnic cleansing when the current Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine keeps a notebook of subraces. I guess we’ll never know what this could possibly mean.