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    To be honest people eat basil and rosemary leaves not the wood part. So the same could be said about bay leaves, no one bites the tree itself

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      This is a play on the two meanings of herb. Of course they are still “herbs” in the culinary sense. But in a botanical sense you would classify plants into categories like herb(aceous plant), sub-shrub, shrub, tree, vine, liana, etc. This doesn’t affect culinary names though.

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    The other side of this coin is that the banana is the largest herb; the banana tree is the tallest plant that doesn’t produce wood

    Of course mixing up culinary and botany meanings deliberately is dumb and leads to people saying things like “a tomato is a fruit” and “a strawberry isn’t a berry” those people can go produce their own wood if you know what I mean

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      A strawberry isn’t a berry. It’s just small and has it in the name. It doesn’t even look like a berry.

      Also a banana isn’t an herb. Just the banana tree is. The banana is a berry.

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          Berries are supposed to be bulbous and smooth. The only berry I can come up with that kinda has strawberry features is a raspberry because it’s more squishy. But even then, it has a lot of the little balls, like a blackberry. Strawberries just don’t look like a berry.

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            Bayberries/waxberries aren’t really smootth, and Yewberries aren’t very bulbous.

            Haskap berries are lumpy and mealy, are they not berries?

            Do groundcherries count with their paper husk? Tomatillos? Cherry Tomatos?

            Are cherries berries? Rose hips?

            Cherry chili peppers are bulbous and smooth, are they berries?

            Raspberries and blackberries often have little hairs growing off of each fruit, does that mean they’re not smooth? If hair is ok, kiwifruit are bulbous, but hariy.

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              I feel like you’re naming berries that don’t look like most berries and non-berries that look like berries. I think you’re actually kinda agreeing with me and making my point.

              In this case, strawberries are not berries that also don’t look like berries.

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            congrats on being the millionth person in this thread including the original artist to not know that words can have one meaning in a scientific context and another different meaning in a culinary context

            here’s some more that will blow your mind, peanuts aren’t nuts, peanut butter isn’t butter, starfish aren’t fish, wow much learn

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    aren’t herbs

    What on Earth is that bird’s definition of an “herb”? A pretty uncontroversial definition from Wikipedia:

    Herbs generally refers to the leafy green or flowering parts of a plant (either fresh or dried), while spices are usually dried and produced from other parts of the plant, including seeds, bark, roots and fruits.

    And what the goddamn hell is “true wood” supposed to distinguish? Do plants grow the faux wood that I can buy at Lowe’s? Rosemary is a woody shrub and, like basil, is in the family Lamiaceae with a bunch of other herbs.

    “Shrubs” and “herbs” are not mutually exclusive (and basil isn’t a shrub – a woody perennial – anyway). wtaf is the logic here; there’s pedantry, and then there’s fucking nonsense pulled out of thin air.


    Edit: Wait, is the comic talking about herbaceous plants (shortened in botany as “herbs”)? Because in that case, 1) that’s not news in botanical terms for rosemary, 2) basil is an herbaceous annual, 3) why did it single out rosemary and basil if it didn’t mean to imply a culinary sense, and 4) still what the hell did it mean by “true wood”? It’s simultaneously less and more confusing.

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      And what the goddamn hell is “true wood” supposed to distinguish?

      I suppose if it contains lignin, it’s really wood, otherwise it just kinda looks like wood at best. If it’s real wood, most animals, with a few exceptions here and there, cannot directly digest it.

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    Strawberries are not berries (but aggregate accessory fruits). Cucumber, watermelon and pumpkin belong to the same family of plants. Tomatoes are fruit. Well botanically, vegetables do not exist anyway. Vegetables are a social construct. Also, wheat is a kind of grass. Isn’t our world beautiful?

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      That wheat is a grass is even easier to understand than corn also is one. And don’t forget bamboo, which can even grow into huge “trees” forming large bamboo forests!

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        Vegetarians aren’t real anyways because they still support mass murder of animals! (partly /s)

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            Eating eggs -> financially supporting a system where male chicks get either immediately killed after birth or more rarely are later killed for their meat. Also it is supporting a system where chickens are bred to produce as many eggs as fast as possible, which means a life of torture to them

            Drinking milk -> financially supporting a system where cows are continuously impregnated against their will and where their offspring is immediately taken from them and killed for their meat (I think this is done yearly). Also it is supporting a system where cows are bred to produce as much milk as fast as possible, which means a life of torture to them

            There are certainly many more atrocities happening, but I’m trying not to think too often of that stuff

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            I would guess by eating diary, eggs, leather, etc. I heard this take just yesterday, and I can see a point, because most animal industries don’t treat animals well even when it’s not about killing the animal

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              leather is mainly a waste product, no one actually kills animals for their skins (except animals that are valuable to humans only for their skin but those are the exception and in many places is even an illegal practice), so idk if i would count the use of leather :shrug:

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      It is beautiful, but you made it sound like Mexican food. It’s all the same you can just do it differently and call it something else.

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        The most sensical classification of species. Tracking shared traits and now shared DNA to group species by how recently they share an ancestor.