I think is time to #switch back to @firefox
https://www.reddit.com/r/brave/comments/17z4m03/its_over_boys/
#brave #youtube #chrome #ads #adblock #blockadblock #chromium
Lol, as if terms of service for something freely available on the internet that doesn’t require an account to use mean anything at all. Stop huffing your own farts, Google.
Google cares a lot more about me watching ads than I care about watching YouTube.
With that being said, I’ve only encountered the “Ad blockers violate YouTube’s terms of service” screen once, and when I refreshed it was gone
I’ve been with Firefox since the start and it’s going well. I tried the others to see what’s up but they never satisfied me. I’m a Firefox user all the way.
Mandatory: FUCK REDDiT!!!
Same for the most part, but I will say I tried using Firefox on the Macbook Pro I used when I was working on my masters, and it was an absolute memory hog. I noticed during my tenure on r/firefox that most of the posts complaining about sluggishness or consuming massive amounts of memory came from Mac OS users, so I feel like I wasn’t alone.
I never used an apple computer for my personal use so can’t say much about performance issues because in the limited time I had to use them I was using safari because I couldn’t be bothered to do anything extra. In my humble opinion I do believe there can be issues because Mozilla doesn’t have the best record for optimizations for platforms. But it seems they are doing a better job lately because when I use Firefox on Linux or windows I barely notice anything.
Oh, absolutely! Firefox on Linux and Windows has never been a problem for me. The only problem I had on Linux is the flatpak version gets stuttery when I want to stream from sites of questionable repute, which I could probably fix if I weren’t too lazy to troubleshoot it.
You weren’t using Firefox though.
You were using Safari with a Firefox skin.
Isn’t that only a thing on iPhone? I don’t think they impose that restriction on MacOS
Ok but it’s still an official version of Firefox, so I fail to see how this is germane
I know that it’s an herculean task with millions of workhours to build a browser from scratch with all engines JS (SpiderMonkey), CSS (Quantum) and HTML (Gecko) and we can be lucky to have Firefox. I use the very performant version on Android every day and especially appreciate that Dark Reader and uBlock Origin work.
May I have a minute to talk to you about our saviour Vivaldi?
If no other browser could satisfy you, you either haven’t tried Vivaldi, you haven’t tried it long enough or you tried an old version.
For me no other browser comes close regarding the IMO most important feature of browsers (beside supporting the essential web-standards): tab management. Stacking, tiling, hibernating, pinning and more recently the fantastic workspace-feature.
That’s only on the tab-front. How about: built in tracker- & ad-blocker, built in dark website-mode, translator, email-client, rss reader, note-app, reading-list, user definable search-engines, page screenshots, appify websites into sidebar and another killer feature: press F2 for a combined command-window and search-everywhere popup.
The next best thing after the year of the Linux Desktop would be if Vivaldi and Firefox joined forces and Vivaldi would switch to Firefox’s engines.
Edge does nearly all those things now too. Edge and Vivaldi are both closed source and yet another Chromium under the hood.
I’ll pass ty.
First of all I respect your love and support for Vivaldi. I’m also happy that you find something that is satisfying for you.
Yes, Vivaldi is a solid option but it never clicked for me because of all the extra bells and whistles you mentioned.
When I said I’m not satisfied with all these other famous browsers it’s because I tired them on an off many times but for my use case they don’t bring me anything over Firefox. I don’t need nor I want a built-in RSS reader, ad/tracker blockers, VPN, email client, translator etc… It doesn’t make a browser better in my humble opinion. It’s just adding extra stuff that I don’t want. I want the freedom to add or remove anything I want.
I might be the odd one but I want things to be simple. When I buy a phone I don’t want to be paying for the extra cameras it has or when I buy a PC I don’t want the RGB stuff or when I buy a car I don’t want it to be connected to internet and require software updates. I don’t want my fridge to have internet connection nor my TV to have one.
Thanks for understanding. Didn’t want to disrespect your inclination to Firefox. Everyone should use what they like best. And I sure don’t want to sound preachy…but…YOU’RE MISSING OUT BIG TIME! Can I come in for just a moment to tell you about your path to a better life?
“Simple things should be simple but complex things should be possible” (Alan Kay)
Vivaldi’s UI is pretty minimal by default and can be minimized even more. Heck you even can hide the tab- and url-bar and completely navigate with F2. You can call it a day and keep using it like that or you go on to create mouse gestures, quick commands or themes, you set the key combos, configure the look of your speed dial and add search engines. That’s my last try, Neo. Do you take the red or the blue pill?
Ahahaha. Thanks but no thanks. I don’t have a fear of missing out and I don’t see myself using Vivaldi as my default browser in anytime soon.
Good luck with your conversion efforts.
I’m using Boost and that link opened in Boost for Reddit so I didn’t even notice it’s on Reddit lmfao
Just so you know, Piped.video is also an option. And you can import your subscription feed from YouTube.
I prefer Freetube and Newpipe as those don’t depend on some server (aside from youtube servers duh)
The cool thing about Piped is that it serves as a proxy, so you don’t connect to YouTube directly
Newpipe uses piped as a backendthis is false, it was LibreTube I was thinking ofYou might be confusing it with Libretube
oml I totally am
@JackGreenEarth Wow, this is look good. I use now odysee, but at Piped.video is much more content in first quick search. Thanks.
yeah for sure you should have ditched chrome (or chrome based browsers) years ago imho, but you do realize that this can happen on firefox too, right?
easy fix: just update the ublock quick list in the settings of the addon.
Doesn’t uBlock still work great with Youtube? Even then there is Peertube, Piped and the many apps that use Piped in different platforms anyway.
Right now on my Firefox it’s blocking the footage, not the audio, and I still gotta wait on the ads. I’ve tried screwing about in ublock origin’s settings a bit but it’s not worked out for me.
Worked completely fine for me yesterday. Haven’t tried today yet.
Make sure you don’t have any other adblockers (unfortunately reddit but official): https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/17tm9rp/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_november_12_2023_mega/
Reinstalled my OS trying to fix something. Fresh Firefox install on default settings with just UBO, still giving me ads with footage blocked.
I’ve already gone to the next step.
Youtube clients that block ads.
Gotta stay a step ahead.
What one is working for you?
For desktop I use the Freetube client.
theres also piped
cant you just use an instance that isnt blocked?
@tubaruco
Perhaps, but finding one is a bit of pain in the ass. And since you have to register for each one separately, if they later block that on…mehWhat gets blocked is random and weird…today it was an open source educational resources site.
Go figure.
well, i never used accounts on invidious, so i just forgot those exist
though you could use rss feeds directly from youtube so that you can see posted videos, and itd just be a little harder since youd have to search for it on a pc (if ur on a phone, you can just use newpipe)
I have seen so many inbuilt ad blockers of browsers fail, especially at YouTube, even before the recent changes, that I was surprised to see them still being used and promoted by eg. Louis Rossmann.
IMO basically nothing can beat addons, at least if seen for all browsers or just firefox.
Browser devs can’t focus on ad blocking functionality. And their team developing ad blockers will certainly be smaller than the team of devs for adblock addons; the browser just needs somewhat functional stuff while the addon depends on delivering a very good to perfect to be used and to receive donations.
On chromium, with Manifest V3 at our doors, built in ad blockers will win over addons by far, just because they have more power.This creates an interesting situation, at least in my mind fed by my bubble:
Tech nerds will use firefox, probably with adblock addon
Tech illiterates will use whatever comes preinstalled - Edge, without any adblock
Users that know the concept of browsers will probably use Chrome, or other browsers they heard before - possibly a Chromium browser with built in blockerNow, what happens if the built in blockers fail - again and again and again? Will the somewhat knowledgeable user care and switch to another browser, maybe the one pushed the most for adblocking: FF with uBlock?
Tech nerds will use firefox, probably with adblock addon
Adblock isn’t a real issue because every browser has it. The real issue is all the other cool extensions available from Chromium-based browsers.
I use 27 addons on my desktop, in firefox. There are no extensions I would need but don’t exist for firefox. The only extension I had to replace with a Tampermonkey script was Vencord, because the devs removed the firefox version of it.
And on my phone I use 12 addons. On chrome, or any other browser not based on FF, I could use exactly none.
27 addons? Might as well disable Resist Fingerprinting, then.
I know what you’re saying, because having that many addons makes them unique, but doesn’t resist fingerprinting still help somewhat?
It does a few things here and there that can still be useful, true.
In my understanding, a website should only be able to detect addons if they directly change the website in any way, eg. the css or html. So let’s just go through the list and check:
- Augmented Steam: Only affects steam, where I’m logged in anyway.
- Auto replay for YouTube: I’m logged in anyway, and mostly use some piped instance.
- Buster: Captcha Solver: I guess it just uses JavaScript to click whatever it needs to. And if changes would be detected, the captcha would probably not let me through anyway.
- Clean twitter: I don’t use twitter. Yeet.
- Dark reader: This is probably one of the only extensions actually changing the website significantly. So I’m one of a million users, if we assume my user agent is real.
- DeArrow: Again, only YouTube.
- Defund Wikipedia: I’m honestly not concerned about Wikipedia fingerprinting me.
- Disable Youtube seek my numbers: You know the drill.
- DDG privacy essentials: 1.6 million users, and I would be surprised if an extension designed to protect from fingerprinting is easily fingerprintable itself.
- I don’t care about cookies: (Because I block them anyway) Also just simulates clicking.
- Kagi search: Just adds a new menu and changes the default search engine.
- Karrinator: Only changes the name of a German politician. And I basically never see her name anyway, and if so either only on Lemmy, (reputable) Newspapers or the official website of the German Government. They have my fingerprint anyway, and it’s the only definition they know.
- KeePassXC: Again, only inserts and clicks.
- NoScript: Is ironically probably the best way to fingerprint, if it’s configured incorrectly and a fingerprinting script is still allowed.
- Return Youtube Dislike: You know.
- Shortkeys: Browser only.
- Simple Tab Groups: Browser only.
- Simple modify headers: Should not change anything that would be possible for the website to check, and is only activated for discord anyway.
- SponsorBlock: Youtube again.
- Tampermonkey: Only has one script for discord.
- uBlock: Should block fingerprinting, or the main use of it, but even if not its behavior is probably very similar to other AdBlockers and there are more than 7 million users (just on FF).
- UnloadTabs: Browser only.
- User-Agent Switcher and Manager: Should not be transparent to websites.
- Vencord Web: Now absolete as it was dicontinued for FF natively. Yeet. It’s a Tampermonkey script now, and only active on discord.
- Video DownloadHelper: Should only read contents, and only if I want it to. yt-dlp is often better anyway.
Yeah…that’s why I switched from FF to Chrome a few years ago. I was tired of whatever extension it was that i needed or wanted at the time being only on Chrome. Of course, i’m back on FF now and it seems to be much better for what i need, so that’s good.
If you’re ever aching for a chrome extension try out waterfox, it’s based on Firefox but also allows the use of some chrome extensions, the list of useable extensions used to be bigger, but it’s growing again thanks to the original dev getting the browser independent again and re-opening it’s development
Use LibreWolf, it’s essentially Firefox on steroids. It removes all the bloat like Pocket or Sponsored sites, it adds significant privacy benefits and comes with uBlock Origin preinstalled.
I have been using Firefox since 2016-17! I had Chrome but the interface became ugly? Then I got Firefox, I liked the interface and the pockets extension, let’s me same links online if I want.
I get this, I clear my cookies, it goes away for awhile. I wonder if I can just find the specific cookie and remove it frequently this whould just stop.
Use FabBlock
Idk what that guys is complaining about. I’m running Brave with also uBlock Origin (for the ads the native blocker doesn’t detect) and right now on Youtube the native ad blocker catches everything and runs just fine.
I’m going to paste a reply I got in regards to Brave and why you should change to a different browser
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Brave is an advertising company, that blocks everyone, but them. Forcing over people and companies into their system.
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They’re heavily in the blockchain ecosystem, with their own worthless crypto.
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They take from open source projects (uBlock, Chromium, etc), but threaten legal action when someone forks them.
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They install bloat/spyware on your Windows system (later claimed it was a mistake).
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Brave, and its CEO is right-wing, lobbying against things like same-sex marriage.
Youre forgetting the fact chrome/chromium has integrated their whole drm b/s recently. They want ad blockers to die, period.
I’m going to paste a reply I got in regards to Brave and why you should change to a different browser
just let people do whatever they want, wtf is wrong with you people
It’s still better than using Google / Edge, and it’s basically the only good chromium alternative to the aforementioned browsers - reminder that stock chromium is not good.
Beside, you forgot the most important point: they further the chromium monopoly, which while the engine is open source its codebase is too big so it is basically controlled by google
Nitpicks:
Brave is an advertising company, that blocks everyone, but them. Forcing over people and companies into their system.
You can disable all the ads.
They’re heavily in the blockchain ecosystem, with their own worthless crypto.
Depending on whom you ask, it’s a pro or a cons.
Brave, and its CEO is right-wing, lobbying against things like same-sex marriage.
See above.
just let people do whatever they want, wtf is wrong with you people
How are they stopping them? They’re not. But if you think that opposing equal rights for LGBT+ people is a good thing, then you’re a massive piece of shit, and we’re morally obligated to call you out for it, openly and repeatedly.
You “suggested” a browser change + mass downvote just for using brave, lol
if you think opposing […]
I don’t, but I don’t see how using a free browser, more so disabling the ads, you support that person or the idea
Like, I could see a point if you paid anything for it (see: Rowling) but for brave you pay nothing so
Vivaldi is chromium based and far better than the alternatives imo. They’re openly anti-big tech, push the fediverse, and will be forking starting at manifest v3.
It is still closed source nonetheless, which is a bit of a gimmick since nobody sane enough could read through most of a browser codebase anyway.
According to this website it is less private than Brave by default, more or less like Firefox
That said, I didn’t consider it before but I’ll definitely check it out later
AFAIK it was tested with the default setting set to no tracker- and ad-blocker. When enabling all the built in measurements it looks a lot better.
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Don’t use Brave rewards, so don’t care.
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See 1.
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So like any for-profit company? Bad, but don’t care.
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It’s very brain dead to call the VPN service spyware. Besides, you’re on Windows, you have a lot more spyware to worry about first.
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Yeah, don’t care. If we go examining every company by if their leaders are morally good or not, we are gonna come very empty.
But do you know what I care about? A browser that actually fucking works on mobile and doesn’t crash every other time I open it up.
no one cares dude. eat the ratio and stop replying.
let the voting system do its thing, replying about the “ratio” is just about as vapid and cringe as you can get.
If nobody cared, nobody would have replied in the first place.
Also, must be sad to decide to engage based on the karma farm you’ll get, but good for you I guess…?
There’s no karma here, you fool
There’s no karma here, you fool
there is. it isn’t shown in lemmy-ui but some other frontends expose it.
one place you can see yours is here (though it only includes the subset of your posts which have federated to that instance)
Do not curse me with this knowledge. I rebuke thee!
You have me confused with someone who cares what you think.
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- Check logs, with strict settings they block own domains. Even their telemetry is opt-in, not opt-out as other browsers do.
- Cryptoshit is a thing, but 100% opt-in. Accountless sync is real solution for privacy.
- False. Both Cromium and Brave borrow patches from each other, that is a nature of open-source. They sued someone using Brave branding, and some scam projects as well.
- False. That’s how Windows is made, VPN services installed are only manually started.
- That’s maybe even good, same-sex marriage is not normal for most people, but anyway that has nothing to do with browser, even if CEO eats childs on breakfast.
You should stop using products for ethical reasons when the CEO is a doodoohead.
That is just a personal opinion of one guy, does not matter if he is CEO or not. I can agree with him or not, it does not matter, everyone could have own opinions, even if it is easier to follow mass opinion Society tells you is correct.
This is pure cowardice.
You should stop using products for ethical reasons
Yes, that’s why I don’t use Firefox. I don’t like companies that give their CEOs the entirety of goodwill donations and use the vast majority of the rest of the money they make on companies with empty descriptions to give speeches and whatever instead of really investing in their technology to stop having stupid bugs and maybe even be better enough than Chrome to give normies a reason to use it.
Lol “I support unethical billionaires because non profits are immoral unless they match my definition of perfect!”
I’m sorry, is it that weird of a feeling to want a company that pretty much has a single successful product to invest in it when it’s an important part of the internet and in constant usage decline?
Huh? What browser do you use?
This is the dumbest take I’ll read today and completely ignorant of literally everything else that is going on in the industry. You’ve set yourself up with the hottest of hot-take false-equivalencies and then think you’ve hit a home run when you’re really playing t-ball against yourself.
That’s maybe even good, same-sex marriage is not normal for most people, but anyway that has nothing to do with browser, even if CEO eats childs on breakfast.
What the hell is your problem? Reported.
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