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    Cool can you go ahead and condemn Hamas now because they aren’t LGBT friendly enough?

    I edited in a small part about Norman Finkelstein in my previous comment do him to.

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      Look, I know that there are people out there using pinkwashing as a way to silence anti-Zionist voices.

      I’m not one of them.

      I have very clearly articulated that my beef is with the man and not what he said here. In fact, I very clearly articulated that his take is correct here. And I never said to take down the post. You are making yourself look bad. Please save this energy for ZioNazis.

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        You are whether you realize it or not. You’re attacking BE who’s consistently pro LGBT for a single edgy tweet he made a year ago as if he’s an anti LGBT crusader dedicating his life to attacking trans people

        Finklestein literally wrote a book attacking “woke culture” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I’ll_Burn_That_Bridge_When_I_Get_to_It . Finklestein has made plenty of mistakes.

        Please save this energy for ZioNazis.

        Likewise. Once again apply your own standard to bad things every other content creator has said and there’s literally nobody left.

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          You’re attacking BE who’s consistently pro LGBT for a single edgy tweet he made a year ago as if he’s an anti LGBT crusader dedicating his life to attacking trans people

          Nah, he’s done it several times. I’m not providing a full dossier of receipts because I have shit to do, but again this comes from a pattern of observed behavior. Again, former fan. Like my point is literally that he’s not consistently pro-LGBT. Anti-trans crusader? Absolutely not, but trans rights clearly aren’t a factor in his worldview.

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            BE is pro LGBT. He frequently mentions it including in his video about Norman Finkelstein, where he calls out Norman for his book. The reason for his attack was because a lot of trans people were using their identity to pinkwash the genocide and attacking the Palestinian resistance on it. BE then made an edgy tweet generalizing the entire white trans community for it but it’s not something that happens every single day nor is there a whole dossier about it.

            If you want to call him out when he does it that’s fine but this video is about the DSA being Zionist imperialists and you’re doing nothing but detracting from its content with ad-hominems. There is nobody else calling out the DSA on being literal genocidaires.

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      Do you know what Norman Finkelstein wrote about lefties in campusses? Time to throw him onder the bus too!

      Yeah which is why I don’t look to him for opinions about “culture war” issues. (Actually, the real reason I’m hinky on Finkelstein is that he doesn’t support BDS. He did do transphobia a long time ago, but I believe he apologized for his previous position. I don’t really care if he doesn’t like “woke” or whatever; he’s basically yelling at a strawman.) Difference between him and BE is Finkelstein has actually done original work. But yes actually, we should be looking for better anti-Zionist voices than Finkelstein.

      And btw, I never even said to take down the post. I added a comment saying that BE is a shitty person, implying that you should take his opinion with a grain of salt. Same with Finkelstein. It’s completely and utterly acceptable and reasonable to add a footnote when shitty people say serviceable things.

      Cool can you go ahead and condemn Hamas now because they aren’t LGBT friendly enough?

      Hell no I won’t. I condemn LGBT-phobia done by Hamas, but you know damn well that Hamas’s supposed LGBT-phobia is exaggerated for propaganda. Good job doing legwork for Zionists to own me in an argument, I’m feeling so fucking owned right now. Of course Hamas should be more LGBT friendly, which I feel is applicable to any and all organizations, even the ones I tolerate (I don’t really like anyone 100%, including myself), even LGBT-friendly organizations. I commend Hamas for their brave resistance against the Zionist entity.