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      I actually missed that on my first pass.

      Thanks for the heads up!

      I also love the breakdown of costs. It’s one of those little things that shows their mentality.

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      Why so negative? Bands also makes merch to increase their income, should we hate on them as well?

      Oh, look at that: the Linux Foundation also sells merch https://linuxfoundation.store/ - maybe you should stop using Linux?

      Microsoft also has merch; so does Android.

      I can’t find any merch store for Apple, so I guess your an Apple fanboy.

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        Also, merch for organizations providing free shit is a way to financially contribute and to get the word out about the project. Especially something like home assistant where most people have never heard of it, and many may think it’s too hard, you can get the word out and maybe even get some people interested in getting free from corpo ecosystems.

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        Why so negative?

        It’s clear that the Nabu Casa Inc. people, who also happen to be the Home Assistant project leaders, are focussed on making money over making well engineered software.

        For example, Home Assistant’s settings page includes an entry for Nabu Casa Inc.'s cloud services product as the first entry in the list and there’s no option to switch it off.

        Home Assistant is engineered in such a way as to make it difficult to install on operating systems that aren’t under control of Nabu Casa Inc., like Home Assistant OS or Home Assistant Container. If Home Assistant were engineered well, it would be simple to take individual Home Assistant packages and build and install them on any distribution, as has been customary in the free software community for decades. As far as I know, there’s no reason Home Assistant must be an operating system rather than simply individual packages. See https://feddit.uk/post/17543373 and especially https://feddit.uk/post/17543373/12207671 .

        Bands also makes merch to increase their income, should we hate on them as well?

        If a band makes selling merch their purpose, over and above making decent music, then I would likewise scorn them.

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          It’s clear that the Nabu Casa Inc. people, who also happen to be the Home Assistant project leaders, are focussed on making money over making well engineered software.

          It’s clear that Paulus created a free home automation product and developed it for 5 years. For free.

          In 2018 they started a fund raising system which also helped provide secure remote access for those that don’t know how to do it themselves.

          I’d say they are focussed on making well engineered software over making money.

          Source

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            I’d say they are focussed on making well engineered software over making money.

            I think you must have a different idea of what “well engineered software” means because to me, nothing you’ve said implies a focus on making well engineered software.

            Writing software without remuneration doesn’t imply a focus on well engineered software. A person can write software without remuneration with a focus on anything, not necessarily good engineering. For example, one can write software without remuneration with a focus on financial reward in future. Which is exactly what appears to have happened. Working without pay to build a business with the expectation that the business will be profitable in future doesn’t imply that the business will be built on good engineering.

            Helping secure remote access for those who don’t know how to do it themselves doesn’t imply a focus on well engineered software. Educating people isn’t the same thing as engineering software, let alone engineering software well. Ease of use isn’t the same thing as good engineering; one can engineer easy to use software well and one can engineer easy to use software poorly. Nabu Casa Inc. have done the latter.

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        The software is free, but no dev works for free.

        Thay have a company that pays for dev time, that company will need funds.

        Might get some socks for work

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          My comment was in support of the store. The software’s free, this is how you can “pay for it”

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          The software is free, but no dev works for free.

          It’s possible to engineer software well and still earn a living.

          That said, engineering software poorly is often a choice, usually made by people who are poor engineers. In some cases, and I suspect this may be the case for Nabu Casa Inc., the people are such poor engineers that they aren’t even aware that their software is poorly engineered. Many technology companies are better at business than they are engineering.

          Edit: actually no, I don’t think Nabu Casa Inc. are unaware of their poor engineering, I think they just don’t care. They’re far more concerned with maintaining their company’s profits.

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            You are the classic example of why Open Source project developers hate some of their communities.

            Toxic through and through. Go vibe code your own solution.

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        I mean, so are free-to-plays full of microtransactions and dark patterns.