cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/7804222
You can tell this is fake because the USA soldier would shoot the child as well
cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/7804222
You can tell this is fake because the USA soldier would shoot the child as well
Dont blame me, im one of the victims of your fascist empire
Americans are also a victim of it. But we do have more agency (and thus responsibility) in reducing its harms.
I will note however that there is probably something that can be done from anywhere in the world. We live in an interconnected world. The fascist empire exists in part because the world allows it to.
You vote in a fascist or let one in and the blame the world. You all deserve to be the victim and shunned by everyone.
“Let one in”
What do you think I, personally, should have done to stop Trump that I did not do?
I get you’re angry but this is a braindead political analysis. The US is a highly undemocratic country. Very few people wanted this to happen.
I can only speak to the person who posted this meme and made the headline blaming people who voted for Kamala
Yeah I thought the headline was silly as well. I’m not sure what Kamala has to do with soldiers murdering people today. Maybe she normalized it with her positions and statements but she’s never had particularly much influence over any US military actions, and people who voted for her had even less.
The point being made is that a lot of Democrat voters limit their action to simply voting Democratic and lying by claiming the Democrats are lesser war-hawks, when historically both parties are fundamentally the same in perpetrating death globally. The post title is mocking the soldier in them using “I voted for Kamala” as a defense for his actions, i.e. I didn’t want this to happen so I voted democrat. Also, the joke could be taken further as a “Just following orders” theme, given the soldier voted against this and didn’t want it to happen, but still committed the war crime as ordered.
I disagree they’re fundamentally the same. Dems are more ambivalent about war compared to full throated support on the right (with some minor exceptions like Massie, Rand, etc.)
Kamala Harris would not be bombing Iran right now.
But yeah people should be doing a lot more than voting, there we agree.
I thought you had the 2nd amendment to prevent this.
Nah that’s only for the fascists. See Alex Pretti vs Kyle Rittenhouse.
It’s balls that’s needed, not some amendment.
Bars.
Yeah, fuck those Jews for letting Hitler take office. They got the showers they deserved.
You can say whatever you want to try to dilute and deflect any criticism, but to us outside the empire, we simply can watch the news to see who is the real problem
What criticism? You can’t even criticize me because you know nothing about me lol
I already acknowledged Americans have a responsibility to stop this so I don’t even know what your objection is.
You’re replying pretty defensively to a meme criticizing American troops. If it’s not about you, then there was no need to reply.
I’m just making a statement about slacktivism. I don’t have a problem with criticizing American troops.
OK, thanks for explaining. But this is a meme comm, so people post memes on it. It’s not a place where you can engage in real activism, that’s not what it’s for.
Victim of American empire:
(Presumably) American:
Are you kidding?
Everyone wants to play the victim. No one wants to do the hard work to protect the victims. Human nature.
But whining about it online doesn’t change shit. I guarantee you the real victims aren’t here on Lemmy.
Are you kidding me? What do you know about Salamence’s life, situation, or actions? What gives you the right to lecture like this?
The fact that they’re lecturing us from the same position lol. That’s what made me want to comment in the first place.
But it’s fine, I was trying to get past that with my edit calling for everyone to work together. But I guess as usual leftists working together proves impossible. Big part of why the world is so shit.
Salamence:
Clearly not the same position. You assumed the person posting was in the same position, which was incorrect.
Solidarity is good. But people in the imperial core can’t expect solidarity if they don’t give it.
They’re in the same position of ignorance about the people they’re arguing with and criticizing online as I am.
What kind of solidarity would you like to see from me that you feel is lacking?
Salamence made a post with a meme criticizing American troops who murdered people in the third world. That’s not a position of ignorance, everyone knows what happened there.
Really? From this reply you made clear what you want is to share the blame
Everyone shares blame, that’s just the reality, whether people want to admit it or not. It means me, yes. But it also means you.
I don’t know why no one will admit that yes, they are partially to blame. I think that IS the first step to working together. If people don’t feel responsibility to act because it’s someone else’s responsibility, then they won’t.