This has been a contentious topic, sparking much debate but following the Governance post (feddit.org’s Zionist bar problem: community ban(s) vote), the Fediverse Anarchist Flotilla has decided to fully defedeate from from Feddit.org.
It follows a model of BDS from pro-Zionist/Israeli sources, showing that views such as genocide denial are not welcome in a polite society. This further backs up the FAF’s strong commitment to not supporting pro-Zionism as with its Golden Rule #8
Users had expressed some reservations around losing access to feddit.org communities, some of which have dbzer0 hosted alternatives such as !europe@lemmy.dbzer0.com, !buyfromeu@lemmy.dbzer0.com. Others can be found across the wider fediverse such as !buyeuropean@feddit.uk.
But wait, isn’t it un-Anarchist to not support complete free speech? Not at all my dear friend. Voluntary association is a core Anarchist principle, and as such exercising the freedom to stop associating with others is part of that. If the Feddit.org admin team decides to change their stance of support for Israel, perhaps the community may vote to refederate in the future.
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I really hope there are better examples of the instance’s problems than what we got in the post. Most of the screenshots (emphasis on most. a few did illustrate exactly what the post said they illustrate) were just banning people for civility. You may oppose civility politics, but in that case I don’t think we should defed just because their moderation enforces civility. Here’s one example from the modlog:
And if you read two more words instead of instantly ragequitting like a little bitch, you would’ve realised that it’s an EXTRA aid package THEY can use, not that Israeli bases need to guard it. Literally just a humanitarian bridge that allows Gazans to access basic necessities from Israel…
Do you agree with this removal?
How about this comment our instance removed?
And if you read two more words instead of instantly ragequitting like a little bitch, you would’ve realised that it’s an EXTRA interface you CAN use, not that it’s Java based. Literally just a compatibility layer that allows Octave to interop with Java…
I trust Unruffled that there is much better evidence out there, but I can’t rest my hopes for such an impactful decision on civility politics. I really hope people come around with much more to chew on.
I think this pressure and action is unfortunately necessary.
I’ll need help creating a new origami community, I have no idea how but more importantly, what implies.
I’m happy to help! I don’t know much about origami but I do like splitting from feddit.org and can run a community.
If you would like I can setup the community and set you as a mod? If not all good!
Thanks, I was planning to look into it this evening. I saw a button somewhere. What I’m more worried about is running it, what it entails, rules, what can and cannot do. That’s where I feel I’ll need more help.
I guess I’ll learn by doing.
It’s much easier than it seems to run a community. If you’re unsure of specific rules the basics are don’t do anything that violates instance rules and stay on topic. You can add others you think might be necessary like not posting too much or too often, or keeping specific questions in a Q&A thread. That sort of thing.
You make your own rules (so long as they fit within the instances). What it entails on Lemmy is basically nothing, as very few people ever causes issues needing moderation. You might get a spammer or griefer so you can delete their posts or ban them.
Basically you can set the theme of the community through rules and vibes. The real hard part is content, it takes months of solo posting to get people to start contributing once they see and join an active community.
Guys, get the fuck off the computer. This is insane shit to be spending time voting on 🤣.
You should be ashamed of yourself for publicly admitting your ability to feel empathy for victims of an ONGOING genocide is too withered, small and pathetic to even consider it worth discussing.
Better than admins blindly doing it without any user interaction. How’s your piracy communities coming along?
This only serves to weaken the Threadiverse further; even moreso than Beehaw defederating from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works.
If defederating from Zionists harms the Fediverse, then Feddit should fix their Zionist problem so they’re worth federating with
{insert Austrian flags on fire}Yeah yeah we’ve heard this before from libertarians who came before you “defederation will destroy the fediverse”, “moderation is a violation of fReE sPEeCh”, and other such talking points yet we’re still here and will certainly be here for years to come, and still somehow the percentage of wrongful moderation is still insanely low compared to the amount of libs complaining about it.
Honestly defederation is a strength, not a weakness. It is a strength to stand up and say no. To refuse to tolerate abusive behavior. Which yes includes Zionists denying Genocide. It’s the reason why despite their best efforts, Lemmy hasn’t been taken over by right-wingers and transphobic trolls the way Reddit was a while ago. Oh they tried, many servers banned their accounts, and the servers they set up have been heavily defederated. People have said the Fediverse would split with a right-wing equivalent to what we have here, but it did not. Those ultimately died off or are dying now. Because the Fediverse is for real people who care about connection and community, and those people don’t care about either.
IMO it signifies the strength of the Threadiverse. The ability to freely choose who and where to connect with.
On redacttit you would be forced to share a space with places like T_D or truscum, and have their horrible takes influence others. Here we can defederate from the worst offenders yet stay in touch with others.
