Who’s saying to “put the world on welfare”? This conversation isn’t about getting things for free from the government, it’s about who is able to enter the country. It is proven thus far that immigration into the US is a net benefit, they commit fewer crimes than citizens and earn their way.
Edit: “preying on the generosity of our country” is hilarious
The initial premis of the argument that I replied to was questioning why people who were born in the U.S. are entitled to something that those who are not born in the U.S. are not.
I’m all for net tax payers entering the U.S. through legal routes. Methods that protect the immigrant from exploitation from employers.
I would love reform. Any changes that get smart productive people into the U.S. would only help us.
At the same time dont you feel it harms foreign countries? We’re literally brain draining other countries keeping them in poverty or preventing them from developing.
That’s just like, openly, demonstrably false. Poor countries greatly benefit from having open borders to wealthier nations, as it removes barriers to bringing that wealth back into those poor countries. Closed borders only serve to keep rich countries rich, and poor countries poor.
Next to no one is fleeing to Mexico for economic opportunity.
You framing it as "fleeing"really drives home your biases. If there were an open border between the US and Mexico, we’d see two-way movement way more often, as it’d be way easier for Mexicans to come to the US seeking economic opportunity, build some wealth, then take that back across the open border to Mexico to their family/dependents/community. We see that pretty much everywhere there’s an open border or some sort of economic cooperation zone.
Who’s saying to “put the world on welfare”? This conversation isn’t about getting things for free from the government, it’s about who is able to enter the country. It is proven thus far that immigration into the US is a net benefit, they commit fewer crimes than citizens and earn their way.
Edit: “preying on the generosity of our country” is hilarious
The initial premis of the argument that I replied to was questioning why people who were born in the U.S. are entitled to something that those who are not born in the U.S. are not.
I’m all for net tax payers entering the U.S. through legal routes. Methods that protect the immigrant from exploitation from employers.
Thanks for clarifying.
Immigrating to the US legally in 2026 is a slow, restrictive, and broken process. Opening it up wouldn’t be the end of the world.
I would love reform. Any changes that get smart productive people into the U.S. would only help us.
At the same time dont you feel it harms foreign countries? We’re literally brain draining other countries keeping them in poverty or preventing them from developing.
No, I don’t feel that way.
Destiny manifested. You’re a great leftist.
So you’re okay with immigration that builds up our society despite it harming the immigrants home country?
Hmm, maybe you have a point. Oh wait, I know of something that would help reduce those harmful effects!
Open borders
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That’s just like, openly, demonstrably false. Poor countries greatly benefit from having open borders to wealthier nations, as it removes barriers to bringing that wealth back into those poor countries. Closed borders only serve to keep rich countries rich, and poor countries poor.
You framing it as "fleeing"really drives home your biases. If there were an open border between the US and Mexico, we’d see two-way movement way more often, as it’d be way easier for Mexicans to come to the US seeking economic opportunity, build some wealth, then take that back across the open border to Mexico to their family/dependents/community. We see that pretty much everywhere there’s an open border or some sort of economic cooperation zone.