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It’s an advantage for the people who get a place to sit and eat.

No… In the analogy they don’t eat. That’s the entire point. They take up space without contributing, that’s the difference between an inhabitant, and a citizen.

You guys don’t care

How many guys named Abundance are you talking to right now? Are they in the room with us right now?

It’s really and conversational etiquette to make assumptions about what I believe in when you could just ask.

Person A - I don’t think cars should have breaks or seat belts.

Person B - I think that’s a bad idea for these reasons.

You…

Fearmongerers be like…

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wherever humans settled had enough to sustain

You do understand that “had” is past tense, meaning that we do not currently have it, right?

I thought it was self evident how it was better; an inhabitant is a person living in a place. A citizen is a person living in a place, recognized by said place, who lives under a social contract with said place, giving up certain rights in exchange for receiving other rights.

It’s kind of like a restaurant. Is it an advantage to the restaurant that people can enter and sit down with no intention of doing business with the restaurant? Or is it better that those who enter do so with the understanding that they will abide by the restaurants rules, and order food?

that would be arguing that i am speaking as if everybody’s needs have been met NOW

But that’s exactly what a world of abundance means.

Having an over abundance in one part of the world and scarcity in another isn’t a world of abundance.

iterally all studies about this make you wrong

You misunderstand, we live in a world that’s capable of abundance. Go tell people in Nigeria that they have a world of abundance and see how they react; because they do not have an abundance of anything.

So you’re okay with immigration that builds up our society despite it harming the immigrants home country?

I would love reform. Any changes that get smart productive people into the U.S. would only help us.

At the same time dont you feel it harms foreign countries? We’re literally brain draining other countries keeping them in poverty or preventing them from developing.

The initial premis of the argument that I replied to was questioning why people who were born in the U.S. are entitled to something that those who are not born in the U.S. are not.

I’m all for net tax payers entering the U.S. through legal routes. Methods that protect the immigrant from exploitation from employers.