I’m Hispanic, I grew up in an immigrant neighborhood, this situation is a nightmare, and every president we’ve had has made it worse since Clinton, but pointing out the Democrats will gladly continue Trump’s immigration policy to appear “strong on immigration” to me is highly counterproductive. people are mad right now about immigration policy, people want change. telling them any Democrat that runs is going to be the same when we don’t know who that person is or what policy they have written down as a plan of action, it’s just telling people to be more hopeless, and not be mad or demand change. No voting Democrat won’t fix immigration, but voting republican will always make it magnitudes worse, and people finally seeing what policy is like and being strongly against it is the only way to get a political party to actually openly be pro immigration for once in my entire life.
telling them any Democrat that runs is going to be the same
No, not the same. Any Democrat will make things even worse than they are now. The speed of worsening will just be slower than under Trump. Vote for them if you want, sure,
but don’t lie to people. False hope in the Democrats is what really kills any hope for the revolutionary change that is so badly needed and that is the only thing that can save us (I mean the whole world, not just the US).
Their point is that those things happen under Democrats too, like Obama destroying Libya and authorizing bombing civilians in countries the US wasn’t at war with, or Biden supporting the extermination of Palestinians, not to mention the hundreds of thousands killed by sanctions they supported. The US being evil abroad is bipartisan.
its just so frustrating to hear my peers saying that feckless ineffective attempts to stop doom is the same as full throated doom. makes me feel crazy that more of my comrades dont discuss or abide by a harm reduction approach. we cant let perfection be the enemy of our own goals.
let’s just remember that kids are in cages since at least 2016 and we had a dem administration in between.
I’m Hispanic, I grew up in an immigrant neighborhood, this situation is a nightmare, and every president we’ve had has made it worse since Clinton, but pointing out the Democrats will gladly continue Trump’s immigration policy to appear “strong on immigration” to me is highly counterproductive. people are mad right now about immigration policy, people want change. telling them any Democrat that runs is going to be the same when we don’t know who that person is or what policy they have written down as a plan of action, it’s just telling people to be more hopeless, and not be mad or demand change. No voting Democrat won’t fix immigration, but voting republican will always make it magnitudes worse, and people finally seeing what policy is like and being strongly against it is the only way to get a political party to actually openly be pro immigration for once in my entire life.
No, not the same. Any Democrat will make things even worse than they are now. The speed of worsening will just be slower than under Trump. Vote for them if you want, sure, but don’t lie to people. False hope in the Democrats is what really kills any hope for the revolutionary change that is so badly needed and that is the only thing that can save us (I mean the whole world, not just the US).
“False hope in the Democrats is what really kills any hope for the revolutionary change”
thats like, your opinion. meanwhile people are being killed and countries taken over.
Their point is that those things happen under Democrats too, like Obama destroying Libya and authorizing bombing civilians in countries the US wasn’t at war with, or Biden supporting the extermination of Palestinians, not to mention the hundreds of thousands killed by sanctions they supported. The US being evil abroad is bipartisan.
its just so frustrating to hear my peers saying that feckless ineffective attempts to stop doom is the same as full throated doom. makes me feel crazy that more of my comrades dont discuss or abide by a harm reduction approach. we cant let perfection be the enemy of our own goals.
I understand, I’m not against harm reduction personally but we can only stop this if we go beyond voting
id rather you be for it than just “not against” it. ;)
anyway, glad we understand each other