• kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Its funny how the same uneducated liberals who have never read any theory somehow simultaneously claim that China is just “mixed economy” yet constantly talk about how they think Scandinavia is socialism

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      2 days ago

      claim that China is just “mixed economy”

      sometimes I’m just like “yeah sure, whatever you want to believe, it’s still better than what we have here”.

      I don’t really care if China is “real socialism” or not if they’re making lives better for their people without destroying the world. It’s not my perfect system but at least it’s real.

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        The problem with “mixed economy” framing is that no economy is pure, and every economy has a principle aspect. There’s no such thing as a state with class “harmony,” so one class must be on top. China is socialist because public ownership is principle, Scandinavian countries are capitalist because private ownership is principle.

        The only way to end this is for all production and distribution to be collectivized, abolishing class, and therefore class struggle eventually, which requires protracted periods of socialist transition.