The thing is that the rebels were (mostly) white, and removing the racial lens allowed Americans to see that a struggle like that of colonized people against their oppressors was obviously correct. But it also means they can’t connect the rebels to real world conflicts, because the oppressed people are generally not white, and so it’s understood through a racial lens.
The only halfway-decent treatment I’ve seen in Western media to date was the Cylon occupation of New Caprica in the 2004 Battlerstar Galactica TV series. It was basically the US occupation of Iraq, except the “us” were the occupied insurgents and the “them” were the occupiers.
If you want to get real into it, the “humans” were also really worried because “they” could act, look, and sound like us?! The horror!!!
My favourite one (it happens a lot in the UK and I assume in other places too) is when people say things like “I support the cause but the protest is really disruptive.”
Like no shit, that’s the entire point of a protest. They also sometimes complain about strikes being inconvenient for them. Oh, is this strike illustrating to you why this service is essential and it would be bad if it went away?
One time when I used to be on reddit I had an argument with someone who was against a climate protest because it could have blocked an ambulance and gotten someone killed. But this was after the protest had already happened and that had not occurred. So you don’t support it because of a hypothetical disaster that you just made up, that already didn’t happen? People, man
Related, in Star Wars lore, Tarkin got promoted (in the late Republic) after landing a ship on top of a crowd of protesters where were blocking the spaceport on Ghorman.
It’s a bad argument anyway, since street-blocking protest crowds almost always part to allow an ambulance through. If an ambulance is stopped, it’s usually the cops blocking it.
The only protest that intentionally blocked emergency services I can think of was the antivaxxer “freedom convoy” protests.
But when you ask a random lib to think of a protest blocking emergency services they’ll blurt out something about climate/workers/BLM/Palestine/etc. Talk about the freedom convoy and they’ll get holier than thou about how unfairly those widdle science denwying fwascists got treated by the police when any Leftist protest ever was treated 100x worse.
I’ve never seen ambulances or fire trucks intentionally blocked, and I’ve often seen protest organizers plan ahead for ambulance & fire access.
They should, the point is to cause a nuisance and force people to listen. The point is not to endanger random people.
This annoys me to no end…
Liberals pissing and moaning about being 2 minute late to brunch because some people with convictions are peacefully standing in the road.
Meanwhile they can’t even fathom the type of revolution that western society actually needs…
The classic British response to protests are “Blocking the roads hurts the economy. It’s terrorism.”
And then they cheer at the truck protest, that blocks the roads and is being disruptive.
Mask on, mask off.
I swear I was in the same argument battling the same bullshit!
Deeply unserious people.
The worst is when they compare the DNC to the rebels, when Lucas himself said the rebels were basically the Viet Cong.
Anything to cope, and bury rebellion assent
Libs think Trump vs. Harris was like Leia vs Darth Vader when in reality it was more like Darth Vader vs Palpatine.
Bingo.
It’s like that old meme about how Luke is a desert farmer who is given weapons and radicalized by a bearded man in a cave, then goes off to a militia training camp and eventually blows up a government installation.
When Luke joins the rebels against the Empire because his people were murdered.
Liberals: 🥰
When a Palestinian kid joins Hamas against the Empire because his people were murdered.
Liberals: 🤬
They never say: “If you don’t like how the resistance operates, why don’t you join it and try to change it from the inside?”
Noooo that only applies to electoral theater.
Yep, that’s literally what it is.
I’ve literally never noticed before that Obi-Wan had a beard.
this seemed too fantastical so i had to look it up and even gemini says so. lol
The interviewer was trying put words in his mouth but then George corrected him. Mujahideen and Al qaeda were both US funded terror groups. Then he tried to shift the blame of the crimes of the American empire solely on to the British Empire and Lucas again corrected him. 😂 Astroturfer ass interviewer!
Yep, he said it on camera. Even said he was jealous of the soviet filmmakers for not being beholden to the profit motive.
George Lucas be like
He def had more liberal tendencies, but at least could recognize material reality.
Oh yeah for sure, I was just being silly.
i’d sooner believe a random commenter than ai hallucinations, why on earth would that crap increase your confidence?
Especially when the English-language corpora used to train LLMs are virtually exclusively anti-communist.
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Libs watch movies about oppressed or colonized minorities (like in Frozen 2 or total recall) and then side with the colonizers or oppressors in real life
Self preservation I guess
How about Easterners? Every foreign rebellion is a fight against pure evil, whereas every domestic rebellion is backed by capitalism?
oh look another opinion over from lobotomy.world
*imperialism
Most rebellions against western attacks seem not to be for socialism or against capitalism.
But, the imperialism is due to capitalism and seems like a natural extension, so in a way, yes too
I’m saying this isn’t a “western” thing. Take the Hong Kong rebellion, for example. Unless you actually believe China is socialist…
You fell for it again, I’m afraid. Previously:
The UK’s 99 year lease to subjugate the people of Hong Kong ended, a lease which had been forced upon Imperial China at gunpoint during the century of humiliation. Hong Kong reintegration after the lease expired was a foregone conclusion. The last minute, US-backed attempt at color revolution failed. It was the so-called “revolutionaries” who brought the brutality, by the way.
This happens time and again: The blueprint of regime change operations - How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent
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No they aren’t correct, and they didn’t respond with facts, just vague posturing. The Marxists responded with facts and sources.
ROFL… ahahaha fucking rich.
Is “nuh uh” something that works in your personal life?
In what way?
They don’t take too kindly to facts there.
Hey quick question, who is winning the war in Ukraine?
This retort unfortunately never works, because they’ve only ever heard lies about Russia’s motivations and desired outcomes—falsehoods about what Russia would consider to be “winning.”
