• Pearl@lemmy.ml
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    9 hours ago

    As much as I love google hate, the bigger problem is people thinking work devices are private. They are not. Your messages/thoughts/ideas belong to the organization.

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      9 hours ago

      Yeah this is the bigger issue here really. Fuck Google and their invasive bullshit, absolutely, but work devices should never be used for personal/private use, and vice versa. Keep that shit completely separate as much as possible.

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      9 hours ago

      Yup! Just cuz your employer isn’t physically there looking over your shoulder while using the device doesn’t mean they are oblivious to what you are doing on it.

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        9 hours ago

        And they pay for it, so it’s completely fine for them to track it, in my opinion. Use private phones, people.

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          You would be mistaken if you think that every work phone is paid for by the employer. A lot of companies have a BYOD policy and still require loading their restrictive bullshit onto it. I have worked at two places like this and I refused to let them do it, but most went along with it. The funniest part if that they still wanted me on the on call rotation, but wouldn’t pay for a decent device so they dug out an ancient Nextel phone for me to use. I have no idea how it still worked.

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            Good! That’s exactly how you should react to that request. BYOD is only okay if the company is subsidizing your monthly bill, even then it’s a grey area to me.

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              Yeah, I had no choice on needing a phone for bring on call, but being only able to receive calls or SMS really cut down on the nonsense heh.

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            In fairness, that is a different situation than this.

            This is google basically providing a mechanism for employers and parents to pull text messages on devices on their plans. That wouldn’t impact BYOD as that is still not on their plan.

            But all the management software and spyware already have those capabilities. Which… is the other aspect of this karma-bate post.

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              Every work phone, BYOD or not, has had the corporate profile stuff installed which already let them see most of everything. I just assumed this was more of the same. Shame on me for not reading the article.

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            I’ve actually never heard about this where I live, in Sweden. Thanks for sharing, even though it sounds both shitty and pretty scummy.

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              I’m glad to hear that the BYOD trend didn’t take off in every country. Many of the companies would act like they were doing you a favor so you didn’t have the “hassle” of carrying two phones around. Oh that is a hassle, but this was just them shoveling their costs onto the worker.

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          Private devices in general. I’ve seen people logged into their social media on company laptops as if the incognito window matters lol.

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            My old boss logged onto her private investment bank account on the work computers/network and bought and sold stock, for example. God knows what else she did. She got fired for using the company card for private purchases. Good fucking riddance. :D