• Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world
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    Women who moan about that shit are just sexists. Plain and simple.

    Male privilege isnt a real thing. Its just rich guys that we all carry the can for. In the real world, we are just as put upon as any other. When complain about social pressures and stigmas, meanwhile men complain about being force to go to war. All the countries below force men to war. To fight, to die. And you just know that if any other countries found themselves in war, theyd be pulling men in with a hover. And in the case of Switzerland, that country had a referendum on forced conscription. And women, a lot of women, voted to keep it even though it didnt affect them.

    Switzerland

    Austria

    Greece

    Turkey

    Cyprus

    Finland

    Denmark

    Israel* (men and women serve, but women have exemptions and escape routes men don’t have, so some classify this as quasi male-only)

    Egypt

    Iran

    Syria

    Jordan (inactive but law exists)

    Algeria

    Tunisia

    Morocco (reinstated in 2018)

    South Korea

    North Korea

    Singapore

    Taiwan

    Thailand

    Mongolia

    Uzbekistan

    Turkmenistan

    Myanmar

    Vietnam (rarely enforced on women)

    Angola

    Mozambique

    Eritrea (both genders technically, but female service is inconsistently applied; often considered male-dominant)

    Brazil

    Colombia

    Bolivia

    Paraguay

    Chile (law applies to both, but in practice conscription is overwhelmingly male)

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      Yo loser (and the losers who upvoted), male privilege doesn’t mean all men have easy lives (they don’t), it means they don’t face systemic disadvantages simply due to being men, while women have to face those disadvantages simply due to being women.

      Conscription doesn’t magically erase pay gaps, rates of violence, hiring and promotion discrimination, political under representation, domestic labor imbalance, femicides, etc. Sure, some men might be conscripted for a year, and it sucks, but women deal with this shit every single day of their lives.

      Now on to the “women voted for it” argument… ignoring the fact that all women can only vote in Switzerland since 1990 so it might not be the best country for your example, pray tell who created and maintains the draft on an institutional level? That shit was built, ran, maintained for generations by men in male-dominated governments, militaries, cultures. But because women voted in one recent referendum it’s their fault? Historical amnesia or incel redditor type comment, choose one (it’s the latter, we know what you are).

      Your point hangs on to a Wikipedia list of some men oppressing some other men in 20-30 countries (it’s men running conscription: the patriarchy affects men too dingbat), while sexism is daily in every single country in the world. And let’s be clear, rich men aren’t the only beneficiaries of male privilege, it’s also simple things like not being dismissed as emotional, not being talked over, not being judged for your body count, not fearing sexual assault on your walk back home, you don’t need to be rich to benefit from those.

      Back to conflicts and wars. Take a guess who the #1 victims of the long term effects of war are, here’s an academic source. To give a recent example, 70% of the dead in Gaza are women and children. And as for the ones who survive… you can probably guess what happens to women during war times and post-war reconstruction efforts, dying on the frontlines might actually be a better fate. You can see it in Ukraine already, women are losing their rights and ability to work, and it’ll only get worse as the war keeps going (and orders of magnitudes worse if they lose the war).

      • Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world
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        Yo loser (and the losers who upvoted), male privilege doesn’t mean all men have easy lives

        Yo, cunty chops. You might want to take that up with all the people who claim that we are, and do, benefit every day in every way.

        The issue of women voting on it, was about the fact that women can and do vote on things that only affect men. I would have thought that was clear? One of half of the country saying that they other had to go and die… And fuck you, for saying “well women couldnt vote there until 1990, hurr durr!”. So that means that its ok for them to have a say whether men do or do not die?

        As for men being the issue for other men, no one said it wasnt, fuck face. The point, you dumb fucking prick, is that men do not have it easy, like so many perpetually online morons make out. Everyone has issues. Saying one group has it better is bigotry. Its the same dog shit that has dumb fucking cunts like you claiming that immigrants are stealing all the jobs and raping all the kids. Its wrong, its dumb, and fuck you people for always trying to make complicated issues down to sex, sexual orientation or race. Only a spoon eating cunt does that… And oh look, here you are. Slabbering bullshit through broken teeth and piss poor insults. Get fucked.

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          When you walk into a room and women put their hands over their drinks, know that it is because you’re unable to address men’s issues without minimizing women’s issues.

          It’s not that the points you’re making are fundamentally wrong, but we can see the hate when you speak your heart.

          Act like an incel, get treated like one.

          This is you:

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            Know, that when that doesnt happen, its because youre perpetually online. And what you see is a direct result of what happens when you constantly tell men they arent worth bothering about, or that they have some special gang that lets do whatever they want.

            But just you keep on minimizing mens lived experiences… Im sure that wont come back to bite you on the ass at any point. Fucking sexist piece of shit.

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      privilege is complicated on many axes and always unjust fucked up bullshit we should take care to not hold over one another

      👎

      i don’t have any privilege because I’m also marginalized on this other axis!

      👍😸

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      You seem pretty well informed, but you gotta realize male privilege is absolutely a real thing. I say this as someone that currently benefits from it.

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        They youre a fucking idiot. Whatever benefits you have or dont have, are due to circumstance. If I cut your dick off, do you all of sudden lose all your “privilege”? Its a shitty buzzword used to make other people feel like shit, and to shitty people off for their shitty actions. Like all the women screaming about white male privilege, like they werent standing right fucking next to us for hundreds of years.

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          Privilege is not a binary concept. You can be privileged in one regard and under-privileged in another, also known as intersectionality.

          You can be a straight white male and still be under-privileged as a person born to poor socioeconomic conditions, work in an underpaid job, have a disability, couldn’t afford higher education, be secular, and so on.

          Being privileged in one regard doesn’t erase your under-privileged circumstances in another. Women are simply asking for men to acknowledge that there are circumstances made more difficult in life by virtue of being a woman.

          A great example is how women typical receive poorer outcomes in modern medicine because of how their symptoms are downplayed and dismissed, but are acknowledged when they happen to men. Your statistical probability of getting better healthcare for being a man, doesn’t negate your statistical probability of getting worse healthcare due to other forms of systemic discrimination like those against poorer patients or chronically ill patients.

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            Its almost like, we should shit on anyone for having more than we do because being rich in one area, doesnt mean you are in all areas… But the people who talk about “privilege”, are making sweeping statements about the group. Im a man, so therefore I can possibly having any problems. “Wont someone think of the poor straight white man?” is something commonly said about the perpetually online.

            When I was a boy, a girl asked me out. I said no, cos I knew she was crazy. To get back at me, she told her friends that I raped her. My “privilege” got me kicked out of school, arrested, beaten up, and eventually stabbed. We talk about no one believing women, but thats bullshit. Men are ALWAYS automatically assumed to be the asshole. But because rich assholes, got away with so much abuse, all of a sudden its “all men” and if you dare say “its not all men”, all of sudden that too is problem.

            But the biggest problem? That rape that didnt happen, thats counted as one of the “not convicted” rape statistics. The fact that I wasnt cleared, because how do you prove a negative? Still counts as a rape, even though it didnt happen. Even though I was convicted. I am still part of the state that men get away with rape, because the system hates women. I am considered a rapist, because some girl who couldnt take a rejection on the chin. And yet, apparently the only thing men have to worry about is being embarrassed. Ill remind you again, I was routinly beaten up, and eventually stabbed on the say so of one mixed up teenage girl. THAT is what its like to be a man. Once you get that finger pointed at you, youre fucked. But because rich men can buy their way out of it, all of sudden, we are all scum who get away with it.

            People are just people. Men, women, gay, straight, black white, tall, short, fat, thin. All of us have things in the plus an minus column. Calling it “privilege” is an internet buzzword used to attack people. Thats its only function. Just like every other well worn internet buzzword. Boomer or millennial, like the year you were born has any baring on your personality. Honestly, fuck the internet for it its turned so many people into. We spend all our time now, looking for how much a victim we can make ourselves out to be by making others look like cunts. We dont raise ourselves up, we tear others down. And its not even about feeling better about where we are in life, its just about worthless internet points. Likes, shares, subscribes, all while spouting popular things. Its just all so… pathetic.

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              False accusations are inexcusable and can ruin men’s lives and hurt the integrity of real reports by other women. I’m sorry if this is something you went through.

              However, two things can be true at the same time. False accusations are bad, and the rates of unreported sexual assault far eclipse that of false accusations.

              Male privilege does not mean that all aspects of men’s lives are easier, only that you have better statistical odds compared to a woman in identical circumstances as you.

              Acknowledging male privilege isn’t an act of denying the existence of men’s issues. It’s about acknowledging women’s issues that were not visible to men until it was pointed out.

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          Being male doesn’t end at my private parts. If you cut off my dick, I’m still a guy and still have some level of advantage simply because I’m male. I hope you find some level of comfort in this life, cause you seem abnormally angry.