Never worry about commie crap like public citations getting in the way of misinformation rhetoric again! (Because the LLM trained on fuckin twitter made it up lmao)

On the flipside for an actually cool non-cucked integration of LLMs with wikipedia check out this post on the localllama where the person shares their project of using a local private llm to search through a local kiwix server instance of wikipedia. https://piefed.social/post/1333130

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    that’s hilarious because wikipedia leans nowhere near left

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          It just lists facts. You go on there and try putting on a political opinion that isn’t actually facts based you’ll be shut down within seconds.

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            it lists facts based on sources that might be biased.

            the guy is right in that quite a bunch of sources lean center-right.

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            I’ve often said that liberals treat Wikipedia as Holy Scripture, and your comment is exactly that: an assertion that a particular work provides direct access to revelatory Truth. That anything it states is inherently “fact”.

            Every holy book is “just a list of facts” to its believers.

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              Well it says the earth is a sphere so I guess I get where you’re coming from. The problem is you haven’t actually provided any evidence to your claim that it’s some kind of evil liberal bias.

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                I’ll bet Grokipedia states the earth is a sphere too. Does it also “just list facts”

                I also don’t see you providing any evidence for your claim that Wikipedia “just lists facts”.

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    If you have to create a wikipedia alternative to stop being fact checked, then maybe you are just fuckin wrong.

    Billionaires: “No, No… I can’t be wrong. I’m Rich! I’ll create a microcosm of information that warps reality to make sure I’m right!”

    Conservapedia: Wait…thats what I was for… what about me?!

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    Elon is one thing, but the Grok developers have recently done a surprisingly good job at making it neutral and unbiased in matters of opinion, but also allowing it to tell people they’re wrong in matters of fact, which is why there’s so many screenshots around of conspiracy theorists getting shut down by it.

    I can’t say whether this will be the same, but if the devs take “without bias” to actually mean “without bias,” rather than what Elon intends it to mean, it could actually be somewhat useful to filter out obvious promotional content and any small levels of bias.

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      I always assumed Grok was chosen to hint as his technology background. For which “grok” is a popular term used for reading and understanding, with code in particular.

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        It’s a Heinlein - “stranger in a strange land” concept. It sort of spread out in nerdery from there where it meant you know and you’re in the know.

        To know is to understand fully sort of. He’s doing the literal opposite which is a bit 1984 of him and is also likely another book he’s read and didn’t understand or at least had pretended to have read.

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      It’s from a book I love, Robert Heinlein’s Stranger in a Strange Land. The word is the Martian term for fully understanding something.

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        Not deeply but completely and absolutely.

        Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a part of the observed — to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in group experience. It means almost everything that we mean by religion, philosophy, and science and it means as little to us as color does to a blind man.

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      You got the original explanation, but grok was taken up by computer nerds way back in the day. It’s not merely understanding a thing, in the book or the slang. To grok means to completely wrap your head around the subject, not merely surface level understanding, really feel it down deep.

      As to Musk’s obsession? He wants to be seen as the cool kid, the smart hacker, the guy who groks what’s really going on.

      Honestly it’s a great name for a search engine or AI. And now he’s actively ruining it like everything else he touches.

      BTW, Stranger in a Strange Land is an excellent book. I laugh when people call Heinlein a fascist for writing Starship Troopers. “So, how about that hippie book?” Heinlein’s books examine various government and economic systems, “What if it worked this way?”

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        Media literacy is at an all time low, especially among terminally online “activists”.

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      Doesn’t anyone remember groklaw? I feel like sometimes only I remember the early Internet anymore…

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        I fully expect the SCO case to be resurrected at some point in this timeline. Then they’ll know.

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      Funny you say that. In Serbia, they say the noise a pig makes is “grok”. My wife burst out laughing when she found out the name of Elon’s AI.

      Imagine some Saudi prince launches an AI called Oink, and then sets up Oinkepedia

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      It would be so funny if someone hacks the site and only changes that, and nobody notices for weeks…

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    Rather ironic given that wikipedia makes a massive portion of LLM training corpus

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          … I really hoped that this wasn’t a thing, but im not surprised in the least.

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          Its just fucking painful, man.

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            Tge thing with conservapedia is Poe’s law makes it impossible to moderate. A conservative (heh) estimate is that 70% of that site is trolling.

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            That site is bugfuck nuts, and not just because I disagree with most conservative positions. Bug. Fuck. Nuts.

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    So why didn’t Conservapedia take off? If it’s unbiased truth, no liberal agenda, it should have blown Wikipedia out of the water a decade ago. Funny that.

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      Conservapedia was comically stupid. Like, there was a lengthy diatribe against the Theory of Relativity that seemed largely based off Andrew Schlafly confusing the Physics term “relativity” with “moral relativity” and being against the latter. This was especially weird because Schlafly personally had a background in applied physics and so ought to know that GPS satellites serve as a proof of some of Relativity.

      As embarrassing as basically every page of Conservapedia was, at least it represented some stupid man’s beliefs and effort. Grokipedia can’t even do that.