Had so much fun watching the so called teams update at work. It would break all sorts of things, it would sometimes be the old version, sometimes the new one, it would mess with logins and authentication… I think it gave our two it guys constant work for weeks!
Same experience here. I don’t know how many times it told me I was using “classic” or “new” like they were flavours of coke.
Microsoft won’t care and doesn’t need to care until businesses actually switch away.
And I hope they do.
Usually they get around this by offering controls for sysadmins at businesses to switch these sort of harebrained features off before they’re rolled out.
This can all be disabled using the Entra b2b guest policy, from what I understand.
Very stupid to have this turn on by default though.
They’ve been relaxing it for a while…
I use teams at work and love the chat much more then emails. This is a very cool feature they are adding.
I guess if we stopped ourselves from every feature that could create more “phishing” vectors, we would be living in the stone age.
The moment you broaden any kind of communication, you expose yourself to more dangers.
Enshittify me harder daddy
Not sure the term applies to MS Teams. It was always a rushed shitty product, pushed onto customers during COVID when companies like Zoom gained tons of users. Few people if any asked for it
They literally added an “Upgrade to Premium” button a few weeks ago. Yes, it applies to Teams
I don’t know anyone that doesn’t use their company teams in the company computer. We don’t see any upgrade to premium because we do have the premium.
The main experience of teams is the corporate word, idk if they are enshittifying their main user base.
My company uses our company teams on our company computers, and we do have the “Upgrade to Premium” button, even though our company pays for Teams.
Though I guess it’s a great filter - who’d wanna be part of a company that’s stupid enough to pay extra for “Teams Premium”?
Uh, I’d think reverse. I don’t really want to work in a company that forces me to use a tool where they haven’t negotiated enshittification away. They don’t pay for the premium features as extra, they usually have commercial licensed on a per user basis and that covers everything.
I wouldn’t mind on a small startup where they obviously have pirates windows, but if the consultant firms I have worked don’t provide me a non enshittfied experience of the tools I’m forced to use I’d raise hell.
Btw, thanks for reminding me, the client we work for blocked extensions in Firefox, edge and Chrome. Gotta raise hell until I get them back.
Wait, you’d seriously throw a tantrum because you don’t have useless AI features enabled? That’s sad.
I push for open source whenever I can, but in the end, I’m forced to use teams and this isn’t a bad feature imo.
then push for email
Emails are slow and bothersome, and I can’t edit them. Long email chains get very confusing as well in my experience, group chats between a few people are easier to handle.
They’re not confusing if people don’t top-post or include miles of signatures.
