I’ve been trying Lemmy for a little while and wasn’t sure how to feel about it.
Today, I wanted to start blocking the most high-censorship instances until I could find a fully zero-censorship instance and simply block all the ones with censorship. Filter bots, not people.
When I looked into it further, I found out there are no zero-censorship instances, because Lemmy relies on a broken “federation” system where each instance is supposed to be able to fetch posts from other instances, but it’s never been finished to reach a fully working state. Lemmy’s official docs say you can’t even do federation over Tor at all. This means it uses DNS, so it won’t actually allow Lemmy instances to fetch posts from each other freely, it just gets blocked instantly and easily, every time the authorities feel like blocking anything.
So you can only ever have the “average joe lemmy” and “average joe reddit” with everything approved by the authorities, and then “tor copies of lemmy” and “tor copies of reddit” where you have free speech but you can only reach other nerds.
People seem to think Lemmy is different because this weird censorship fetish is extremely popular and most of you are happy to see bans happen to certain people, not just bots, so a small Lemmy that censors certain people feels fundamentally different from a big reddit that censors more people. But it’s the exact same thing, it’s reddit.
When reddit was smaller, you could say basically anything you wanted there, they just wouldn’t let it reach the main audience. Then it got too big, and any tiny part of the audience you could reach would be too big, so they won’t let you talk at all.
Lemmy is now the small part of reddit where you can say whatever you want, separated from the main audience, until too much growth happens and you have to move again.
It’s not actually a solution to reddit. It’s not designed to be different, it’s designed to match the past today and then match reddit’s present tomorrow, while being part of a system that’s about the same in past, present, and future.
Last year, this year, and next year, you’re posting somewhere it won’t be seen by many people, and the system that charges people for ambulance rides is getting another year of ambulance ride revenue, facing no organized resistance. There’s no difference here.
Lemmy urgently needs federation between onion service instances and DNS addresses in order to actually do what most users seem to wish it would do: allow discussion outside what the corporate authorities allow, while outgrowing reddit & helping undo the damage social media has done to human communication.
Why did you put this after a random quote from what you were replying to? Is it supposed to flow together somehow?
Incorrect, and weirdly phrased.
Incorrect again. I want Lemmy to support “federation” over Tor so I can see what a zero-censorship cluster of instances is like, as I said in my post. I don’t do shit like call half-banned acts “illegal”
You said “Yes”, finally, to my question about CSAM and whether or not you think it should be legal.
Sorry, you don’t think TOR is ever used to facilitate illegal activity?
I don’t why you’d think it’d be so interesting. It’s just be shitposts and spam and slurs and threats and CSAM. You can get close experiences to this on 4chan and Twitter.
That’s a lie, but why do you put it right after a quote where I asked yet another question you refuse to answer? Is that another layer of dishonesty? Seems like gaslighting
I don’t get what you’re trying to ask, or why. Explain both what and why?
Hard sentence to parse. You really suck at typing.
What is? What is just be that stuff?
Didn’t ask, why waste my time with such a pointless suggestion?
It’s not a lie. You’ve said in other posts that it shouldn’t be removable.
TOR is used for criminal activity.
I don’t get why you think a total lack of moderation in a feed would be so interesting.
An uncensored feed. You’re not very good at picking up context.
Lying again doesn’t stop a lie from being a lie, it’s just lying again.
That is not a question or a reason for asking, but yes.
I don’t. I think a feed that removes spammers like you (and allows all good-faith discussion) would be interesting, and you can easily understand that, but you pretend you “don’t get it” because you’re very dishonest.
I was making fun of your typo, genius.
I already made it pretty clear I’m not interested in what you pretend an anti-censorship feed would look like.
You literally said here that it shouldn’t be removable.
Finally.
How am I spamming? I’m replying to your posts. Sounds like you want me censored.
It’s also comical to me that you assume an instance with zero rules would automatically lead to good-faith discussion.
And you know what it would look like, would you?
Didn’t remember ever using the word “removable.”
Clicked your link. Ctrl+f “removable” both results are you, not me.
What do you mean?
You’re replying with abusive nonsense, making me repeat stuff 50 times, ignoring all my questions while asking a thousand of your own, etc. It’s quite spammy.
From the current version of Lemmy, which relies on that kind of targeted censorship in its design, which you’re against fixing.
Not from nostr, which you can’t be banned from or have your posts removed from, where I’ve repeatedly said you should join me in discussion since you seemed to be trying to bait me to say things I could be banned for.
Not from the version of Lemmy I want, where only spammers are censored, and no human is banned (their spam is just removed/throttled/blocked by individual users)
I didn’t ask.
I simply speculate on it, instead of lying about what it would mean.
You refuse answer most of my questions. I feel completely justified in the doing the same.
I’m pointing out your hypocrisy. All behaviour is not equal. I haven’t hurled abuse at you, you have repeatedly hurtled abuse and insults at me.
Incorrect. I have answered most of your questions, often multiple times since you keep repeating them.
Maybe you’re insane enough to believe I refuse to answer most of your questions, and you feel justified, but that’s not healthy. You also might just be knowingly lying through your teeth, which isn’t healthy either.
Nope. There’s none there to point out. I do keep pointing out yours, though.
Correct.
Incorrect. You have been “hurling” abusive replies at me for hours.
Incorrect. What I have done is repeatedly “hurtled” (hurled?) insults at you, and occasionally responded in kind to your abuse.