I’ve been trying Lemmy for a little while and wasn’t sure how to feel about it.

Today, I wanted to start blocking the most high-censorship instances until I could find a fully zero-censorship instance and simply block all the ones with censorship. Filter bots, not people.

When I looked into it further, I found out there are no zero-censorship instances, because Lemmy relies on a broken “federation” system where each instance is supposed to be able to fetch posts from other instances, but it’s never been finished to reach a fully working state. Lemmy’s official docs say you can’t even do federation over Tor at all. This means it uses DNS, so it won’t actually allow Lemmy instances to fetch posts from each other freely, it just gets blocked instantly and easily, every time the authorities feel like blocking anything.

So you can only ever have the “average joe lemmy” and “average joe reddit” with everything approved by the authorities, and then “tor copies of lemmy” and “tor copies of reddit” where you have free speech but you can only reach other nerds.

People seem to think Lemmy is different because this weird censorship fetish is extremely popular and most of you are happy to see bans happen to certain people, not just bots, so a small Lemmy that censors certain people feels fundamentally different from a big reddit that censors more people. But it’s the exact same thing, it’s reddit.

When reddit was smaller, you could say basically anything you wanted there, they just wouldn’t let it reach the main audience. Then it got too big, and any tiny part of the audience you could reach would be too big, so they won’t let you talk at all.

Lemmy is now the small part of reddit where you can say whatever you want, separated from the main audience, until too much growth happens and you have to move again.

It’s not actually a solution to reddit. It’s not designed to be different, it’s designed to match the past today and then match reddit’s present tomorrow, while being part of a system that’s about the same in past, present, and future.

Last year, this year, and next year, you’re posting somewhere it won’t be seen by many people, and the system that charges people for ambulance rides is getting another year of ambulance ride revenue, facing no organized resistance. There’s no difference here.

Lemmy urgently needs federation between onion service instances and DNS addresses in order to actually do what most users seem to wish it would do: allow discussion outside what the corporate authorities allow, while outgrowing reddit & helping undo the damage social media has done to human communication.

  • iloveDigit@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
    1·
    2 days ago

    You refuse answer most of my questions.

    Incorrect. I have answered most of your questions, often multiple times since you keep repeating them.

    I feel completely justified in the doing the same.

    Maybe you’re insane enough to believe I refuse to answer most of your questions, and you feel justified, but that’s not healthy. You also might just be knowingly lying through your teeth, which isn’t healthy either.

    I’m pointing out your hypocrisy.

    Nope. There’s none there to point out. I do keep pointing out yours, though.

    All behaviour is not equal.

    Correct.

    I haven’t hurled abuse at you

    Incorrect. You have been “hurling” abusive replies at me for hours.

    you have repeatedly hurtled abuse and insults at me.

    Incorrect. What I have done is repeatedly “hurtled” (hurled?) insults at you, and occasionally responded in kind to your abuse.

    • Skavau@piefed.socialEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      Incorrect. What I have done is repeatedly “hurtled” (hurled?) insults at you, and occasionally responded in kind to your abuse.

      Hurtled was obviously a typo.

      You just go “Nuh-uh” to most of my questions. And refuse to elaborate. And then claim you answered them.

      • iloveDigit@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
        11·
        2 days ago

        Hurtled was obviously a typo.

        Didn’t ask. Why waste time typing something so obvious?

        You just go “Nuh-uh” to most of my questions.

        I don’t know or care if that’s true, but it sounds like most of your questions aren’t earning very in-depth answers.

        And refuse to elaborate.

        Incorrect. I pretty much never refuse to elaborate. In fact, I usually refuse to refuse to elaborate. This is pretty noticeable about me.

        And then claim you answered them.

        Incorrect, since the “and then” implies I did the other part first. I claim to answer questions after answering them, not after refusing to elaborate.

        • Skavau@piefed.socialEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          Didn’t ask. Why waste time typing something so obvious?

          Because you commented on it. So I commented back.

          Incorrect. I pretty much never refuse to elaborate. In fact, I usually refuse to refuse to elaborate. This is pretty noticeable about me.

          You constantly refuse to elaborate. You’ve provided no evidence of any lemmy instance ever shut down due to outside pressure from the “authorities”. You’ve provided no evidence of lemmy.world moderators being “glowies”.

          • iloveDigit@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            Because you commented on it. So I commented back.

            How is that a justification for wasting time?

            You constantly refuse to elaborate.

            Incorrect. I more often refuse to refuse to elaborate. Why do you keep acting like you need so many things repeated?

            You’ve provided no evidence of any lemmy instance ever shut down due to outside pressure from the “authorities”.

            I didn’t ask if I did. Why waste time typing that?

            You’ve provided no evidence of lemmy.world moderators being “glowies”.

            Again, I didn’t ask if I did.

            • Skavau@piefed.socialEnglish
              1·
              2 days ago

              So what? Do you need “ask” for me to point this stuff out? I obviously gave them as examples for where you’ve refused to elaborate on particular points.

              • iloveDigit@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
                11·
                2 days ago

                So what?

                What are you asking?

                Do you need “ask” for me to point this stuff out?

                See below:

                I obviously gave them as examples for where you’ve refused to elaborate on particular points.

                There’s your answer, looks like you’re able to waste time answering questions nobody asked.