I don’t see it and that’s why I asked. Could you clarify?
People who insisted that not voting or voting third party would send a message.
Ah, I misunderstood your classifications. I would definitely lump those people in with the “liberals who do nothing except vote” crowd, not the “electoralism is a scam” leftists.
The claim was that electoral democracy was a misdirection, my point is that all the effort to manipulate it demonstrates that it is the seat of power, and the oligarchs have merely occupied it.
I would definitely lump those people in with the “liberals who do nothing except vote” crowd
Since they’re defined by not voting, they aren’t. They are, materially speaking, equivalent to anti-electoralists. The liberals are at least voting for plausible harm reduction.
my point is that all the effort to manipulate it demonstrates that it is the seat of power
That’s not at all what I mean about it being a false choice.
That’s one hell of a hasty generalization. Putting effort into something doesn’t make it materially valuable or useful. Lawns aren’t a useful cash crop, valuable export or critical infrastructure despite the ludicrous amount of resources spent on maintaining them.
Since they’re defined by not voting, they aren’t.
Within the framework of a representative democracy not voting when you don’t have representation is the same as voting for someone who isn’t representative of your interests.
Within the framework of a representative democracy not voting when you don’t have representation is the same as voting for someone who isn’t representative of your interests.
Within the framework of FPTP elections they are different. Voting against the person who is least representative, no matter how marginally, is better than not voting.
I don’t see it and that’s why I asked. Could you clarify?
Ah, I misunderstood your classifications. I would definitely lump those people in with the “liberals who do nothing except vote” crowd, not the “electoralism is a scam” leftists.
The claim was that electoral democracy was a misdirection, my point is that all the effort to manipulate it demonstrates that it is the seat of power, and the oligarchs have merely occupied it.
Since they’re defined by not voting, they aren’t. They are, materially speaking, equivalent to anti-electoralists. The liberals are at least voting for plausible harm reduction.
That’s not at all what I mean about it being a false choice.
That’s one hell of a hasty generalization. Putting effort into something doesn’t make it materially valuable or useful. Lawns aren’t a useful cash crop, valuable export or critical infrastructure despite the ludicrous amount of resources spent on maintaining them.
Within the framework of a representative democracy not voting when you don’t have representation is the same as voting for someone who isn’t representative of your interests.
Within the framework of FPTP elections they are different. Voting against the person who is least representative, no matter how marginally, is better than not voting.