So when the DNC ratfucked Bernie twice despite me voting for him and Clinton and Biden, what am I meant to take from it? Just shut up they know what’s best at losing to Trump?
Bernie himself never said he was ratfucked. Bernie himself immediately worked with the dem party to enact legislation that benefited their shared constituency.
What did you take from Bernie’s own actions? What are you saying in spite of Bernie’s collaboration with the very folks you paint as enemies?
Why do you pretend to know better than Bernie while talking shit on the very collaboration that passed Bernie’s priorities?
Your words, you are ratfucking more than Bernie or anything Bernie has had to deal with…
Yeah I’m somehow ratfucking by using my memory and words asking for better from the “less evil” party, not the party that rigged it’s primaries 3 times in a row.
If you voted for the democrats and participated in the primaries then why are you responding to something about not doing those things? This clearly isn’t directed at you.
Except the issue is that they were participating, and the ratchet effect happened anyway.
From my experiences working third-party and leftist campaigns over the years, this is a really common story. A lot of people have burned out on voting and activism because they have done it and seen it not accomplish anything in the U.S.
Democracy isn’t something one person on their own can influence.
But it is something that one can influence by reaching out to others and making sure others vote
If you care about something, least you can do is convince your friends and family on what’s the right side to vote for, and then making sure they actually vote as well.
Nah I fell for the “We’ll push Biden left!!” BS in 2020 and all that got us was more bombs sent to Israel while he pretended to be sad about doing so along with supporting union busting and the cops.
Pushing Biden to the left got me called a russian bot and a trump supporter, because I wanted Biden to do the things he promised, and I was aginast giving Trump ammo in his re-election bid.
It happened across world_news@lemmy.world. I wanted Biden to retract Trump’s cages at the border and have stronger COVID protections. I was called an unrealistic fake Democrat who really wanted Trump to win.
Because I wanted Biden to be popular for a second term.
So when the DNC ratfucked Bernie twice despite me voting for him and Clinton and Biden, what am I meant to take from it? Just shut up they know what’s best at losing to Trump?
Bernie himself never said he was ratfucked. Bernie himself immediately worked with the dem party to enact legislation that benefited their shared constituency.
What did you take from Bernie’s own actions? What are you saying in spite of Bernie’s collaboration with the very folks you paint as enemies?
Why do you pretend to know better than Bernie while talking shit on the very collaboration that passed Bernie’s priorities?
Your words, you are ratfucking more than Bernie or anything Bernie has had to deal with…
Oh that’s right, the dnc argued in court that they ratfucked Bernie because they don’t owe their voters anything.
Yeah I’m somehow ratfucking by using my memory and words asking for better from the “less evil” party, not the party that rigged it’s primaries 3 times in a row.
Bernie never said centrist / corporate Dems are asshats either, but that doesn’t mean it’s not true lol.
Exactly. He probably did in private because he’s the only tolerable person in the Senate.
So I can’t complain and vote for them the same time? No criticism of the party failing to stop Trump?
Pretty sure they were addressing protest non-voters and third party voters.
Bernie saying it doesn’t make it true, anyone with a functioning brain knows better
If you voted for the democrats and participated in the primaries then why are you responding to something about not doing those things? This clearly isn’t directed at you.
Except the issue is that they were participating, and the ratchet effect happened anyway.
From my experiences working third-party and leftist campaigns over the years, this is a really common story. A lot of people have burned out on voting and activism because they have done it and seen it not accomplish anything in the U.S.
Democracy isn’t something one person on their own can influence.
But it is something that one can influence by reaching out to others and making sure others vote
If you care about something, least you can do is convince your friends and family on what’s the right side to vote for, and then making sure they actually vote as well.
All leftists need to do it, not just a few. We have more power together than apart, and the only way the democrats will change is from the inside.
Nah I fell for the “We’ll push Biden left!!” BS in 2020 and all that got us was more bombs sent to Israel while he pretended to be sad about doing so along with supporting union busting and the cops.
Pushing Biden to the left got me called a russian bot and a trump supporter, because I wanted Biden to do the things he promised, and I was aginast giving Trump ammo in his re-election bid.
On lemmy? Yeah, I doubt that.
It happened across world_news@lemmy.world. I wanted Biden to retract Trump’s cages at the border and have stronger COVID protections. I was called an unrealistic fake Democrat who really wanted Trump to win.
Because I wanted Biden to be popular for a second term.
democrats have been saying this for decades and here we are, watching the democrats cave over and over again.