• Commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    To be fair, a lot of leftists are pro-nationalism, so it’s not inconsistent for them to demand hundreds of nationalistic ethnostates for indigenous populations. It’s a sad state of affairs

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      1 day ago

      Yeah, I guess I didn’t know that nationalism of all things would be something I’d see leftists defending.

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        1 day ago

        FYI, most “land back” campaigns are more about stewardship than possession. That is to say: there’s no interest in kicking families out of their homes, but instead about managing the land and resources.

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          That’s the thing though - “managing the land and resources” is effectively in many ways amounts to ownership of the means of production, and that “most” is doing a lot of legwork too. I find the whole concept problematic and I don’t like that this obvious legal victory is being tied to this by leftists here.

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            I’m just trying to point you in the direction to educate yourself. You’ve got a certain “vibe” towards the concept. I’m giving you an alternate vibe to consider, but I have lived somewhere that ‘land back’ actually happened, and that’s where I came by my vibe.

          • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            21 hours ago

            Read ‘seeing like a state’ and tell me indigenous land management in the americas was worse than what we have now.

            I want the means of production producing and sustainable, and ideally egalitarian. This serms like the most politically viable way to do that. Therefore: landback.