Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank have beaten to death a United States citizen in his early 20s, the victim’s family members and rights groups have said.
“We are aware of reports of the death of a US citizen in the West Bank,” Reuters reported a State Department spokesperson as saying. The official declined to comment further “out of respect for the privacy of the family and loved ones” of the reported victim.
Sorry your straw man didn’t work.
I am begging reddit debate lords to actually learn what ‘strawman’ means, rather than treating the wikipedia page on logical fallacies like a list of magic incantations.
I am also begging them to just talk plainly: “You strawmanned me”, rather than this insufferable nerd sarcasm bullshit of “sorry you strawman didn’t work.”
I mean if, we’re being real, it was also a whataboutism. “What about what the democrats did?”
Get better.
Whataboutism is itself a thought-terminating cliché.
Citations Needed podcast: Whataboutism - The Media’s Favorite Rhetorical Shield Against Criticism of US Policy
That’s an interesting excerpt. I always thought the proper response to an identified whatabout is to simply say “I asked you first.” -That’s assuming the opposite party refused to respond to the initial premise, argument, or question. I imagine if they did respond to the initial premise, argument, or question then asking whatabout… is just a standard form of discussion and debate, or so I’d think.
The modern whataboutism is the bothsidesism.
Basically a straight up admition that they’re both meaningless though terminating cliches
Another straw man. You guys are on a roll.
What is cliché is resorting to strawman arguments and whataboutism/bothsidesism when your dogmatic incantations don’t win the day. They are the refuge of the weak. Attempting to devalue the ideas is a transparent effort to reduce the impact of your weakness being labelled, It’s the same as white supremacists loudly calling out Godwin’s Law when they are rightly labelled as Nazis or Zionists labelling legitimate criticism of the actions of the state of Israel antisematism. Mike Godwin himself said, “By all means, compare these assholes to Nazis. Again and again. I’m with you.”
Man, you really can’t stop yourself from talking like the biggest reddit smuglord loser alive
Ad hominem. You just can’t help yourself.
Have a good faith conversation. As long as you use these super weak devices I’m going to call them out. I don’t care what names you call me or what insults you hurl.
Do you lot insist on writing like the most annoying losers on earth deliberately?
You know what the absolutely weakest whataboutism is? Both sides!
You’re on a roll. Do a Gish Gallop next! I love Gish Gallops!
I see you’re now just going down the list of magic incantations you learned from Wikipedia.
Not to mention, doubling down on talking like the biggest reddit loser imaginable. How about you tell us about bacon and narwals next
Having your bullshit called out clearly triggers you. Have you considered making informed, good faith arguments instead of trying to devalue the labels legitimately applied to your weak devices? Don’t want your strawman called out? Don’t use strawman arguments. Don’t want your whataboutism called out? Don’t use whataboutism. Don’t like that I called out all your normal devices? Don’t use them.
If you stop using those weak devices and actually engage in a good faith discussion I’m here. Keep using those weak devices and I will keep calling them out.
Stopped reading here
Stay in your safe space, dude. It’s scary outside the echo bunker.