So, Trump and many Republicans are HAPPY about the Big Beautiful Bill. I am trying to get inside the mind of someone who voted for Trump who is happy about the bill. What exactly are they happy about?

This is a serious question. I honestly just want to know what the average Trump voter who pulls in maybe 40k a year? Why is he smiling about this bill?

Serious answers only please.

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    They believe that by attacking perceived woes (immigration, social safety nets, women’s rights, and the education system) that all will magivally become better for the average citizen.

    They’re addicted to the fallacy of the American Dream™ to the point that they don’t see the larger picture, and again the oligarchy strengten its grip on a divided population, consequences be damned.

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    They’re happy that they “won.” They have no idea what the bill does, they trust that a failed businessman has their best interests at heart, so whatever he’s doing must be good for them.

    Any of these people who take the time to learn what any of these policies actually mean quickly become not-Republicans.

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      Any of these people who take the time to learn what any of these policies actually mean quickly become not-Republicans start to disbelieve reality and declare the truth as, “fake news.”

      FTFY 👍

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        I’d say if they write it off as fake news, they didn’t take the time to learn. But I guess that’s just semantics.

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    Because Trump delivered on something with a catchy name and then signed it in on July 4th with theatrics. Propaganda works. Maybe they’re about to have a kid and they heard about the savings account with a thousand dollars deposit from the federal government. It has come to my attention that a great number of people in this country do not pay attention or keep track with politics with more than a shallow interest. So when things get worse for them or a benefit they should have isn’t there they won’t notice or blame Democrats.

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    If you are a white straight conservative small business owner you are very happy. If you make more than $200k you probably much pay less than 10% tax after new deductibles.

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    american politics is little more than a team sport and they’re simply happy that their team won; it’s the same reason why democrats insisted that you vote for our last administration despite how supportive they were of the gazan genocide.

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        i know it’s difficult for most democrats to pay attention beyond the propaganda cloud, but try to open your eyes and see the news articles confirming that that the last administration didn’t even bother to ask or even pressure netanyahu to stop the genocide.

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          i know it’s difficult for most democrats to pay attention beyond the propaganda cloud, but try to open your eyes

          continues to completely miss the main point of the comment.

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            yes you did; there was literally zero attempt at “harm reduction”

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              You are right, I heard Kamala was planning to implement project 2025 if dumpy didn’t. /s

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                her administration literally didn’t even bother to secure the equal rights amendment; which would have nullified much of project 2025.

                also a huge majority of project 2025 has been enacted since 1981.

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                  If you cannot accept that LESS people would have suffered if the dems won, I cannot help ya.

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          Correct, Biden admin did nothing to mitigate and Harris promised nothing would change under her administration. Truth hurts.

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            Literally everyone knows that.
            Harm reduction was about making sure it didn’t get even worse with Trump in charge.

            And here we are.

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              Respectfully, may I ask what the end game of “harm reduction” is? Isn’t it just kicking the can down the road?

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            it doesn’t take any kind of smarts to read an article from a respected news source that confirms that the last administration was not at all interested in “harm reduction” for the gazan genocide.

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              This isn’t about Gaza. We all know that the situation in Gaza is fucked, and the Biden administration wasn’t friendly to Gaza. I was pissed as hell at their response. But that doesn’t mean bringing fascism home to the U.S. is the solution.

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                the facism was always here; it merely had a mask that is now being torn off.

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                  No it wasn’t. That’s delusional. We’ve been slow walking toward fascism for a while, but it wasn’t just always there.

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              Those who abstained from voting and helped Trump get elected have done far more harm to the people in Gaza than those who voted Democrat. That’s the harm reduction aspect you’re missing. No one is saying the Democratic party’s stance on Gaza is good

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                read the articles and you’ll see that the evidence says the exact opposite: the last administration didn’t bother with harm reduction at all while the the current one actually managed to pause it for a couple a weeks and isn’t automatically caving into netanyahu’s demands

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            There’s a HUGE body of evidence that proves Americans are the most propagandized people on the planet and this response, willfully ignoring the facts, is both telling and indicative of this country’s future.

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            🤦

            A KGB spy and a CIA agent meet up in a bar for a friendly drink.

            “I have to admit, I’m always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up,” the CIA agent says.

            “Thank you,” the KGB says. “We do our best but truly, it’s nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them.”

            The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. “Thank you friend, but you must be confused… There’s no propaganda in America.”

            How do you not understand that most of us were raised under the same indoctrination and have experienced the same propaganda as everyone else here? We’re not the ones still propagandized by that upbringing, education, and media exposure. I suggest starting here to learn how to see past it.

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    They run on spite. Just doing something which the other side hates is enough to make them happy.

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    Seriously, I think the vast majority of Trump voters could not tell you one thing about the bill. Maybe the no taxes on tips thing. It does not matter to them. Not thinking is a perk of MAGA.

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    Well, I live in Russia, but I’ve read there were changes about taxes calculation logic for people of low enough income too. Maybe they are smiling about that?

    It’s still funny how the supposed problem of US state debt going is apparently not a problem when it’s your side inflating it beyond the year 1946 record against GDP. Or so they say.

    BTW, when people say that US state debt is being misinterpreted and it’s not a problem, - basically any country’s state debt is, until it isn’t. That would work like, well, loss of trust into US ability to support the debt, which means loss of the value of USD, which together may form a positive feedback loop. Not hard to see that if such thing were to happen, you’d have rapid inflation and probably default.

    (Also maybe that talk about bringing production back to USA, Musk’s political ideas and funding for military structures, all that stuff, are being done in preparation for the inevitable, - it’s technically possible to avoid it, but politically may not be, cause both main sides just promise more spending to own the other side. Because their plans that don’t make sense now look kinda better in a hypothetical scenario of post-default USA. It’ll still have enormous human capital, and its economic situation would allow to use that for building industries anew.)