I was wondering, with all the different Lemmy clients and frontends, what/which out of these do people actually use? To answer this, I made a poll if anyone wants to fill it out, and I tried to put every client I could find.

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    I’m a bit sad that my favorite (Infinity/Eternity) isn’t that high up. Loved it since my Reddit days. Tried different clients: Lemmy, thunder, liftoff, sync,… still like this the most!

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    Closing in on 10 years of Sync (Reddit/Lemmy). I’m too used to it to switch things around. The only time I’m using the mobile website is when I need to use spoilers.

    On desktop, I switch between default, Photon and Alexandrite.

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      For me, it’s not about being afraid of change, but that Sync has exactly the features I want.

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    Memmy has been my favorite, although I wish it would go back to having updates. I understand they’re taking a break though and I just need to be patient

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      Same here. I’ve moved to Avelon which I strongly recommend you trying out. It’s legit.

      Once memmy starts getting updates again I may switch back but gotta say, Avelon may have me hooked.

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      I’m using Memmy too, although the app sometimes repeat post reply 5 times and I had to delete the other 4. I still use Memmy anyway and don’t mind waiting till this gets fixed.

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      Oh look, 6 times this time. I shall leave the duplicated replies here. Coincidental proof. Only happens sometimes. Talk about the devil.

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        Talks about comments being posted five times sometimes

        Memmy: “I’m gonna prove you wrong! >:(”
        posts six times

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          Memmy says imma make you a spammy bot. I got rate limited after that reply. The first time this happened I got downvotes for all my spammy replies, but that was before I realised this problem. Memmy trained me to clean up my mess. Thank you Memmy, no more messy.

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            Memmy is trying to raise you well and stop you from littering with this as analogy. Truly an age of wonders of technology we live in ^^

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      I’m using Memmy too, although the app sometimes repeat post reply 5 times and I had to delete the other 4. I still use Memmy anyway and don’t mind waiting till this gets fixed.

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      I’m using Memmy too, although the app sometimes repeat post reply 5 times and I had to delete the other 4. I still use Memmy anyway and don’t mind waiting till this gets fixed.

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      I’m using Memmy too, although the app sometimes repeat post reply 5 times and I had to delete the other 4. I still use Memmy anyway and don’t mind waiting till this gets fixed.

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      I’m using Memmy too, although the app sometimes repeat post reply 5 times and I had to delete the other 4. I still use Memmy anyway and don’t mind waiting till this gets fixed.

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      I’m using Memmy too, although the app sometimes repeat post reply 5 times and I had to delete the other 4. I still use Memmy anyway and don’t mind waiting till this gets fixed.

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      My only problem with lemmy is the lack of a client. Right now, for me, memmy and voyager are the least worst, but they’re pretty bad.

      I’m not even asking for an Apollo out of the gate. I’d settle for an Alien Blue. And I have no problem paying for it, either. I was an Apollo ne plus ultra user, or whatever it was called.

      From an information architecture perspective, it really seems like reddit and lemmy might be close enough that a middle layer could be written that would make it easier to port user-facing apps from one api to the other. There’s obviously be some differences, but if feasible it might accelerate development of multiple client options at once.

      For the record, I’ve tried memmy, voyager, mlem, lemmios, liftoff, and I am presently going to try bean. That’s approximately the order of how useable I’ve found them, but they each have their own annoyances. I don’t own an android device, but I hope the options are better over there.

      In any case, I became a heavy reddit user only after Alien Blue came out. I became a very heavy user after Apollo came out. I left reddit the day external clients became unavailable.

      I think lemmy has enormous potential, but the UX needs to be made easier if we’re to really make a dent in reddit usership and get the level of posts, comments, and active communities they have there.

      I also suspect that the backend is going to need a better approach for handling the negative consequences of a large influx of users. I’m not talking about load - I’m talking about community management. Back in the day (by which I mean the early 90s) there was an email blacklist. Admins of important nodes in the email distribution network had a shared list of domains that had unsecured servers, and would update it based on where they saw the (then relatively recent phenomenon of) spam coming from.

      I’m really interested in how the information flow network of the fediverse evolves, if it continues to grow. Are we going to find a network with community structure, with clumps of mutually federated instances that have few if any connections between them? If so, clients will have to have solid account creation and management, and the admin tools will need to be sophisticated.

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        I can’t speak for iOS apps so comparing would be hard but, I’m quite satisfied with the current state (and estimated future) of the android clients. So far, I found Thunder and Eternity (fork from Infinity for Reddit) to be the most suitable for me.

        I’m excited to see the progress in a year’s time and which apps will be the most popular/developed by then

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        Yes, try Avelon OP! It’s really good. The UI is so smooth. Scrolling. And it has the ability to hide bars on scroll. It seems I’m the only one who cares about this feature haha but to me it makes content look much better without the navigation bars constantly being on display.

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      Yeah I really liked Memmy. The lack of updates wouldn’t bother me except there are a couple annoying bugs still. Also when I click on a community it opens in my browser. I’ve tested a bunch to find one that has everything I want. I’ve also settled on Avelon. The only thing it doesn’t have is multiple icon options and that’s not an important factor at all.

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      I think only Summit is as good as Sync is in smoothness, I voted for Sync, Voyager and Summit as those are the ones I use more, Voyager is nice, but it is not very smooth compared with the other two (using the native app).

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    I love whoever answered: “I use a web browser like a Luddite” 🤣🤣

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    I’ve not found anything I like more than Voyager. It has native apps for android and iOS, but I prefer the progressive web app version.

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      I recently switched from Voyager to Avelon. Voyager is great and I’m keeping it because it’s always been so reliable, but I just really like Avelon. It has a nice explore tab for finding new communities, and it’s SwiftUI, so it has that clean native iOS look to it. They’re very similar otherwise.

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        Avelon is my favourite for the very simple reason that it’s compact mode is the most compact of any I’ve tried.

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        Only things I miss in Avelon at this point are more sorting options for Home feed and a not full black dark mode. Voyager solves both of those for me so that’s where I’ve mostly been.

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          Settings/General/Sorting/Show Additional Options should solve the first issue! Working on something I think will satisfy the second

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        For me, it runs faster and smoother/more consistantly than the native Android app. I’ve not actually used the iOS one. Also, the updates come in faster.

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    Almost all of Syncs business model is ads. The free version has ads and almost everyone who pays for it is doing so to remove ads. Which is just rewarding the implementation of ads. I also disagree with the concept of profiting from free user content with ads like Reddit does. Which was Reddits primary goal of preventing third party apps. They wanted the ad revenue themselves instead of third parties getting the ad revenue.

    The only way this can be acceptable is to not have a free ad version and only have a paid version. That way you are paying for software and not paying to remove ads or profiting from free user content.

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      I paid to remove ads from Reddit Sync in 2014. 9 years went by where I continued to use the app every single day, as ljdawson continued regular improvements and updates (aside from the incident). By the time Reddit Sync went away, I felt I had vastly underpaid for what I got, and purchased lifetime Ultra as a way of supporting ljdawson.

      I totally get what you’re saying. But at the same time, Sync is so much more than just the content that it displays. The ads are not there to profit on free content, they’re there to support the user experience that sync provides. They’re also far, far less obtrusive than typical ads

      The nice thing is, there’s choices! Feel free to use other clients and find what works best

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        Same here. I used the paid version sync for reddit for years and got my money’s worth out of it. When the incident happened I switched to infinity and, while annoyed, I definitely felt I got my worth out of it. When ljdawson released sync for lemmy and added the ad-free upgrade I happily purchased it and I have been very satisfied with the app and all the improvements he is continually making. This is all coming from a hardcore open source 20+ years of Linux on the desktop guy.

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      I’m a sync user and pretty tired of these pointless statements. Don’t want it, don’t use it! I pay for ultra to support the dev and that’s my choice. Again, if you don’t want it, don’t use it. But can you please stop this sync bashing? It’s not as if the torrent of anti-sync memes forgot to cover what you are saying.

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        Exactly, vote with your time and/or money. If you don’t like something, don’t use it. They’ll be people that are fine with it and will use it.

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        Why do you care if someone doesn’t like your client of choice? They have some value that is different than yours, they have every right to express why they think people using sync is harmful. You are free to disagree but don’t complain because they express an opinion you don’t like.

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      This is such a bad take. Imagine being mad that the user has a choice for a low/no cost ad supported version and a paid version. There are other benefits too, like being able to trial the software for as long as you want before buying in.

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      I’m using the free version of Sync for Lemmy now, I don’t see any ads. Maybe because my phone has the adguard server as my DNS server and it’s just blocking them all?

      How atrocious are they when not using adguard?

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      Wait, how is earning revenue from having ads in your app “profiting off free user content,” but charging someone directly to use the app isn’t? They both do the same thing for the developer (generate revenue), the only difference is who is paying.

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      Synce is hilarious to me. “You know how Lemmy is completely free to use? What if it had ADs! And what if you had to pay money to remove those ADs!”.
      And people lined up around the block for it.

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          There are plenty of other developers, new ones that were happy to work on integrations and apps for the fediverse. While sync is great, it’s like a giant Walmart moving into the area, displacing other viable alternatives.

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            You can pay one time to remove the ads, or sign up for Sync’s Ultra subscription which provides additional features like OCR in images and text translation.

            Once you do so, the ad library is not invoked at all.

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            Then pay for the ad free version, and you’re letting them make money without ads.

            If you just want to steal people’s labor, then nah.

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              I’m not trying to be rude here, but please read my post. Paying to remove ads is part of the ad business model. Anyone who pays to remove ads means the developer profited from ads.

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                So in your mind, what does the business model look like for the developer? If they can’t charge for their app and they can’t offer it for free with ads, then what is the expectation? 100% FOSS and assume that goodwill from users will give them enough in donations?

                I saw in your comment you are in favor of charging for the app, but how is the ad free version not exactly that? It’s a paid app for those who want that but it’s a free app for those who don’t mind ads. It just seems needlessly nitpicky for that to be the point of contention here.

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                  You do know that there are a dozen other apps that don’t charge anything, don’t you? Sync is the only one that costs money. It’s the only one that has ads.

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                They won’t listen to you. They’re too wrapped up in defending it.

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        If people line up around the block for it, maybe it does actually add value? You can hate ads, I do too. But if people willingly look at ads to visit a website (Lemmy) that does not have any in its original version, then for those people the app obviously adds enough value to make it worth it, don’t you think?

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          No, Sync has a loyal cult in a very similar way Apple does. Cult shall buy regardless of reasoning. Cult shall obey ads. Cult shall love it. Cult just wants another toilet app instead of Reddit.

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        Yes, because the lineup is worth it when the product trumps the competition.

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        I’m here from the thread where he let us know. I was expecting something a little more egregious than the above. That’s absolutely crazy.

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          It’s not even mean. And this isn’t some niche sub specifically about Sync. It’s the most generic sub imaginable. Are they paid by Sync?

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            Are they paid by Sync?

            Yeah, one dude is blackmailing Lemmy to advertise /s

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        According to the mod post, this was far from the first time, and when they were warned they didn’t take it well, hence the permaban.

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        Did he get reported or what? I just saw somebody mention Izzy in a Star Wars meme lol.

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      As re there any other Lemmy clients that are being worked on full time?

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      Every time I see comments like this I imagine that Reese meme from Malcom in The Middle saying “Wah Wah, too bad!” Or whatever the English translation of that is.

      Picture for reference.

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      I was considering trying sync. thanks for the info. never gonna touch it now. there are too many good free browsers now to even bother. I’m still trying narrow down between the last three out of five different iOS ones I downloaded. they are all so good and Apollo like

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    I’ve noticed that all the Sync users are polite and never bash any other Lemmy client. Maybe because they know that we have a choice and they do too. I’ve got money to spare I will spend it on arguably the best app for Lemmy . You guys can use your FOSS . I never complained . Why are you??? Enjoy your clients. There are many. We have got an array of choices. That’s awesome. Lemmy wins.

    -Happily posted via Sync Ultra

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    Thunder for Lemmy been solid for me since I’ve been using it.

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    I use Sync for now, but full disclosure I am Beyond 's developer and as soon as it becomes more stable and with more features I will be making the switch 😁

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      That’s a pretty nice endorsement for sync though, BTW can you embed polls into your app (assuming there’s an API for straw poll)?

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        That would be pretty cool, I will add to the community ideas list and look into it when I can, thanks!

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    I use Connect. I like it. Seems to do what I need and I’ve used the customize settings to set font colors, etc.

    I’ll definitely be checking out Boost when the dev gets it set up. He’s a one man show and tries hard to get things running 100% before releasing updates, so, I’m guessing a new app might take longer.

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    I’m not sure which I find funnier, the fact some people are using the other option to put Sync or the one that just says “YOUR MOM”