Interesting, thanks for the info

That makes sense, I’ll have to check the path. Thanks for lending your thoughts on this

Yeah everything (server, Linux clients, Android clients, other clients) is on the same WiFi network which is why this is extra frustrating since Linux just works like usual

No tcpdump isn’t seeing the request… Thanks for the suggestion

Your comments were good and kind. Debugging even obvious things is good since computer science is literal magic electrified rocks and keeping every step in our heads is impossible

Yeah don’t worry about the downvotes

Hmm not seeing it on GrapheneOS

Yeah same netmask of 255.255.255.0

ERR_NETWORK_ACCESS_DENIED

But if I can see the server on the same WiFi network from any Linux machine wouldn’t that ensure all those steps are OK?

Is there a setting for this? Yeah, I assume it’s some default setting I missed

(I’m seeing this issue on any Android distro, I’ve tried a few)

nmap -Pn 192.168.1.2

At least it shows the server is up from the client’s perspective (other clients can actively see the same IP and server on port)

Same WiFi subnet

No mobile network

Thank you

Any good debugging tools for android here or should I just rely on Linux networking tools through installed shells? Is there an industry standard for Android as a client?

People use mean words incorrectly often. Think about calling some “dumb” when they mean ignorant or lacking intelligence, the word means “mute” which is a real affliction that affects people and could happen to anyone, thus pushing down a demographic who literally does not have “a voice” to speak up. Abelism is rampant in the English language

My advice is don’t take it to heart but note it since they might use mean words directly against you, or if you’re vulnerable enough with the person, gently talk to them about it

Massive amounts. In the US, see Texas and how their energy grid has been under massive strain since new data centers are popping up there. It also uses a massive amount of water and natural resources. Global this happens, it’s one of the more obvious ways of direct impact our resources and energy

For an example: Watching a DVD locally has an immediate energy use, and that use is monitored and then sold to data brokers by the energy companies (at least in the US). Pretty much end of story.

Now the same movie being watched on a big streaming service, they use AI to process and suggest the movie, catalog and analyze every other user data to build their algorithm and AI better, and then usually sell that data to data brokers who then sell to other data brokers… Not to mention the servers needed to route the traffic to the correct computers and all of the computers in between. And that’s just considering a private use of a streaming service directly without a smartTV and an ISP that isn’t also selling their browsing habits…

Which all require energy, water and precious metals, few if any are “green” or cleanly extracted

Being private actually helps with global warming, AI and human rights because it gives the beast less to feed on. Less data or “good data” means fewer computers processing data and wasting energy.

Keep it up, you’ll find yourself in more interesting circles than the mindless consumers

::edit:: On your comment of the end of civilization, yeah, being private might save your life or others. Historically data collection and processing makes it easier for bad people to hunt down other people.

Not saying this will happen, and I don’t believe it will, but if you’re worried about some scary future, then keeping yourself private might be beneficial

Yeah that sounds pretty useless. It should at least shred the previous key at least so any messages are encrypted with no key

Any good papers to read more about the actual mechanisms used behind immutability?