I skim them all. The options I wrote are soft parodies of what each said. There’s a ton of problems with this model of governance, but I’m no voting member, so my opinion has no impact.

That said, it makes it so a single posture has to be voted on in its entirety, which is dumb (as some legislative bodies of the world have proven). As a result, nuance is erased alongside with any sense of ideological vision or compromise, and instead it promotes vagueness in every action and glacial institutions that break slowly break apart.

The very person who wrote the proposal that won reacted to winning with:

I regret the loss of contributors (which would have happened with either option winnign [sic]). It is just too early to take a final decision on the mater [sic]. Let’s revisit this in two years or so, and let this mess of a GR be a warning for our future selves.

The proposal was designed to win time without having to take any real stance while taking the smallest loss of contributors in the process. And thus it was written as the most milketoast nothing burger. When an infinite set of possibilities exists that actually do address real concerns like climate impact, social impacts, copyright and legal problems related to generated code, etc. in relation to the principles and overall values of the project. Instead, they are deferring the practicalities to pull request’s bickering.

But again, I’m not a voting member or contributor. So my opinion is null. I still think the way the process is designed and conducted is stupid and prone to cause the eventual failure of debian via governance collapse.

The Debian vote was so stupid:

Option A: Psychotic breakdown
Option B: Ethical impracticality
Option C: Political extremism
Option D: Two contradictory things at once
Option E: Something that doesn't prevent the other options but packaged with something nasty and unpalatable
Option F: Sensible but ultimately vague and action-less common place neutrality.
Option G: Nuclear option
Option H: Do nothing

It was such a brain dead exercise in futility. It was designed for the winner from the start.

Nussbaun’s comment on the result is hilariously dull:

On a very personal note, I regret that the winning option does not acknowledge all the legitimate concerns around AI: environmental impact, copyright and licensing uncertainty, the health of Free Software communities, and the strain of aggressive scraping on the open web.

The GR results give us raw numbers about our opinion, and a direction, but we have a lot of work ahead of us to act as a community and understand how we can continue to accommodate the very large minority that would have preferred to ban or discourage AI.

Lucas

¹ obligatory disclosure: the script used is AI-generated

Yeah, the option that doesn’t say anything won. Who knew?…wait yes, mathematicians, they knew. The most important part of a survey is choosing the options carefully.

Always remember. No matter what the law says, in our current philosophical embodiment of what a “justice system” is, you might be guilty or not of a crime, but the only real reason you are being punished is because of poverty.

There’s also maintenance blindness. It is easy to see how something lasted forever, when you weren’t the one doing the maintenance and repair work everyday. Also, many “good ol’ immortal appliances” neglect to mention how most of the parts are actually brand new or it wouldn’t be functional otherwise.

We tend to forget that the design on the left was the corporate ux language for a long time. Open source is just slower to fall for the trends, but they fall eventually.

Don’t worry. When AI does all the TV shows for you, then there will not be a need for crediting human labor. You’ll get to all 78 seasons of Ow, my balls! One after the other. Don’t worry about 80% of the screen being covered in ads, it won’t cause seizures to most people.

For a decade tech has fucked sub’s accessibility. The landscape is a complete mess, simultaneously stuck with tech that is too old and also suffering from awful implementation of new tech (LLMs suck at closed captioning but everyone insist it is the only way to do it now). Yet context reading to know who needs subs when is still so archaic and depends completely on user input. But then, the content is always innadecuate, specially when it’s for the hearing impaired.

Just to be clear. The flatpak is free but the mobile one is $3,62?

Not judging, nothing wrong with FOSS getting sources of income to keep the work up. But I’m just trying to make sure I understand the rationale. What does the app exposes on users? because pay usually demands google play’s most privacy invasive services.

Yeah, it’s going the be a whole ordeal. I will have to block an afternoon for the migration. Definitely not a “never breaks anymore” scenario. Everything can be broken, there’s no perfectly stable software.

Funny enough I had to rollback, since it doesn’t start in the latest version in my setup. I have to make a conscious effort to keep it one or two subversions behind. It is not the first time an upgrade breaks my install. It will probably be a whole thing when I decide to actually upgrade it again.

Right now, the latest update doesn’t run in my otherwise until now perfectly working environment. It’s frustrating because there’s no easy way to downgrade it in my setup.

Brick ovens can go there, doesn’t mean that you should cook the pizza at that unless you’re one who likes charcoal as a topping.

When people have to use something everyday for work, they become acutely aware of every one of its shortcomings and the reasons behind them. When they realize that it could be better but isn’t because of a bullshit reason and, on top of that, there’s no better alternative, this creates resentment. Because then your survival depends on you putting up with unnecessary BS.

I hate that I can’t change the auth method. I’m stuck with github. And for the life of me can’t figure out how to change to anything else. The option is not there were help says it should be, and support doesn’t care. My only choice is to scrap everything and start a new network from scratch.

Classic not all wasps apologist.

If you don’t trust Tailscale there’s like 3 different FOSS self-hosted alternatives. Setting one up is actually not that much more complex than setting a reverse proxy and you control the tunnelling network end to end.

I recognize the complexities involved. But as long at data centers are fueled by a fossil based grid and use clean water for cooling, this amount of paper is not hurting more nor less. OP is fine, if they want to save trees the move is to stop corn and palm oil in products. That’s what is destroying forests.

Before full paperless, a college semester for me was a quarter of a small closet stack of paper. By the time I graduated it was a couple of notebooks and a tiny binder not larger than yours. Paper is super recyclable, paper is not what is killing the rainforest, if that is your concern. A single Google data center kills more and wastes more resource than all the tiny paper stacks of each student combined.

Wow, that’s a lot of projection on a single comment. I didn’t disagree with any of the comments. And I’m not attacking anyone. Chill down, we are talking about software ffs.

Always remember that the point of this scene is that the guy saying “I don’t think about you at all” is an insecure prick who is constantly anxious of losing his power and status. He thinks about it all the time, this scene is just bravado to keep up a façade of suave indifference, but inside he is spiraling out of control because the other dude took a project away from him. So, this meme doesn’t say what you think it says.