I understand the concept and also the meaning and consequences behind the different types.
Most of the new users will come from a centralized system with mostly posts, threads and comments.
We should keep it simple and self explanatory as possible, or we accept the niche position. I won’t have a problem with that but the chance is here to bring fediverse out of the corner.
A goid on boarding would help a lot and lower the hurdles.
Found out as well, thx for the input. Corrected my comment.
Basically I like that too, but a decentralized structure brings it up different in the first place.
The decentralized server, community structure has to come to a centralized information structure somehow. With the flexibility to determine on the user side what sources you want to collect in your “meta” NHL collection.
EDIT: I’ve just found kbin.social and find it has superior signup options. It’s just: make an account (email/password), or sign up with Google or Apple. No server talk. Upside is the layout is nice and it acts as a Lemmy instance (threads) as well as a mastodon instance (microblogging). Only downside currently is that their android/iOS app is in development and isn’t ready yet, so desktop only.
It could be the fediverse thing we are waiting for, but to use it in the current state as a first entry point has some downsides.
it is early beta with a lot of features not implemented yet.
the website still works good, even on mobile.
in addition to the concept of groups, posts and comments you now have instances, threads, microblogs and magazines. That’s overwhelming and drives people off. The masses don’t care how it is technically implemented as long as it’s easy to handle.
Edit: as a benefit to be an active part of all those integrated fediverse parts you have to set up several accounts for each part, not only for kbin don’t have to set up an extra account in lemmy or mastodon. You can post from within kbin.
Don’t get me wrong, as already mentioned I would love to see a fediverse browser collecting everything together. But for now that’s future talk.
No issues on the phone.
I took the “why do you want to be here” more as a bot barrier. But you are correct, it could block off also the wrong person.
Good point and we should spread the word as suggested.
There are still some hurdles that will lead to problems when mass migrations happen. Not from a technical point, as I understood the servers don’t have any problem handle a lot of people, but from the community aspect.
FOMO, is always a considerable point when joining a instance. It must be clear that the instance is just the entry point into the fediverse and there is still access to the complete content.
fragmentation, while this is the whole point of the fediverse it could lead to missed chances when the critical mass for a sub is not reached as the community is spread over 10 gaming subs on different instances. A more easy process for subscription to interest groups that subscribe to all of the mentioned 10 gaming subs collected under language preferences. To solve this the apps used could support these features without the need to perform changes on the server side.
a standard set of communities should be there for available on every instance. But then moderation will be a problem as there is not one mod but 10 needed for the gaming example.
I think there is still a long way to go. While I am happy with what’s there for now, bringing the people together under a fragmented structure will be the biggest challenge.
Maybe the kbin way will help as it collects the fediverse under one interface, no matter if lemmy, mastodon or whatsoever. The only problem is the account multiplication to join everything.
Just thought about this feature and how nice it would be when it’s implemented.
Edit: yes to community based