Ok, but the reality is, as long as the rich are regularly taking corporate jets, and we know government’s not going to act on it, why would John/Jane Q. Public cut their own waste? It’s going to make their lives measurably worse without real benefit to them or climate change. I understand why one might, but we are not going to convince enough more people to “do the right thing” to make a difference if that’s the argument.

I see. This is the level of understanding we’re dealing with.

I know all that. That’s why a said as a country, not a nation-state; to differentiate between national culture and government It was the nation-state that started in 1789. I’m not wasting any more time arguing with you. It’s clear we won’t understand each other.

When do you think America (as a country, not a nation-state) started? And what makes yours more factual than the 1619 narrative?

Their people didn’t see it. Information silos.

American English is distinct from other English, so our vocabulary has no bearing on the rest of the world, but you can also get your linguistic prescriptivism out of our dialect. Language (and the meanings of words) are co-created by speakers. Ask any reputable linguist. And in American English, for political and cultural reasons, the meanings of “conservative” and “fascist” have converged in many ways.

Tell me you don’t understand LLMs or education without telling me.

Ah yes, well-researched history about topics that make white conservatives uncomfortable. That “alternate history”? What do you think is false in the 1619 project? I’m curious.

Let’s say there’s a spectrum, left to center to right, and there are a hundred political positions evenly distributed between the center and each extreme. I’m willing to accept that schools are 10 places over to the left, because “treat all people equitably” is both a left value and a necessary part of living in a free society. But this response is to pick a position maybe seventy slots over onn the right, and pretend that’s equivalent to the “left propaganda” of “Billy has two mommies, and that’s ok.”

I want my IWW-sponsored curriculum! If we have to deal with this shit, it should at least be real.

On another thread, a guy literally tried to defend this by saying “kids constantly get left-wing indocrination.” Are right wing nuts actually unaware how unbalanced the US right and left are in terms of extremism? They can’t really believe what they’re saying, right?

That’s why when they say they hate “politics” and want it out of schools, people get scared: “Shit, am I ‘politics’ on this week’s Fox News Bingo Card?”

Putting on femininity isn’t inherently sexual, unless you think femininity is inherently sexual. (It’s not. Women are full human beings.) I put on dresses every day near kids without it being weird. Can’t imagine how having a penis would change that.

Methinks the person who hasn’t read Ur Fascism here is probably you.

No one’s using an IWW-created curriculum, so I don’t know what “left-wing loonies” you’re talking about. You’re is comparing center-left “don’t be mean to brown people because they’re people” to PragerU’s fascist content. Do right wing nutjobs just not know how far out they are for “both sides” comparison?

Because what defines mainstream social media is more the algorithms and ads than the participants?

Right? “Bro, you’re not treated like a leader because you have leadership skills. You’re treated like a leader because you have money and power, which would be largely useless if this political/social/economic system collapsed. Plus, you just made clear that you’re looking forward to a future with slaves. Maybe try therapy?”

I was responding to the previous comment, not OP. OP was saying conservatives get upset when people won’t sleep with them because they’re conservative. From the text of the comment I responded to, it looks like the person is saying “moderates” just don’t care about anyone but themselves. I’m adding that often the people the actual OP is talking about pretend to be the moderates the previous commenter is discussing.

Eh, sometimes it means another thing, namely that they know their conservatism is off-putting to most women and they’re lying to get you into bed.

Women can be conservatives too. Still gross.