• otp@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Ah, I might’ve mixed it up with threatening or insinuating nuclear war.

    Either way, it just seems like more sabre-rattling. Also, it’s not something that the US is doing, it’s something that Putin’s being a pansy about.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      2 months ago

      This is an absolutely deranged attitude to have towards a possibility of starting a nuclear war. It absolutely isn’t going to matter who you think pansy was about what when we all die. One has to be an imbecile to be willing to gamble with the future of all humanity over western hegemonic interests.

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        2 months ago

        Was it western hegemonic interests that started an invasion of Ukraine? I seem to recall it was Russia.

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            2 months ago

            I know I’m wrong? Notice you replied on my first and, at the time, only message in the whole thread. And my statement is the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine.

            So no, I don’t know I’m wrong. In fact I know I’m right.

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              2 months ago

              Another example of deliberate bad faith: lying about what you said

              You could have edited your previous comment to make it appear you were telling the truth but you’re stupid and lazy apparently

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                2 months ago

                Maybe try debating people when you learn to form coherent thoughts. What I said is “Russia invaded Ukraine”, there is no bad faith or lying about it. It is an objective fact.

                It does indeed seem that someone is stupid and lazy between the two of us, try looking in a mirror and you’ll find them.

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                  2 months ago

                  Why are you using quotation marks around something that isn’t a quote? You said something completely different.

                  “No U” all you want, dummy. You’re being evasive for a reason.

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                    2 months ago

                    Does it trigger you that I am saying that Russia invaded Ukraine? You seem to be quite tilted about it. Maybe learn the meaning of words before using them, I am being the opposite of evasive. You said I am wrong, and I said I have nothing to be wrong about because I did not provide opinions, only a single fact: Russia invaded Ukraine.

                    Goodbye

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            2 months ago

            Nato is a defensive alliance, not an offensive one. The only way it could be perceived as a “threat” by Russia is id Russia had intention of expanding in that direction.

            And what happened to the self-determination of countries, if countries like, say, Sweden and Finland want to join NATO as additional defence against a militaristic expansionist Russia, that is absolutely their right.

            But since you are not debating in good faith, I’m not gonna spend more words and effort on this.

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              NATO is objectively an offensive alliance that has invaded numerous countries. But since you are not debating in good faith, I’m not gonna spend more words and effort on this.

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                  2 months ago

                  Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, just to name a few. How can anybody be such an utter ignoramus is truly astounding.

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                    Operations on terrorist organizations. Geography was not taken from any of those countries. I was against the Iraq war and I think many Americans were, I wouldn’t try to defend it.

                    Now how is Putin invading Ukraine to expand Russia’s territory similar to those?

                    You Russian shills love to call everyone idiots because no one understands global conflict like you do, but do you really?

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        2 months ago

        My attitude isn’t going to matter if we all die. Neither will yours, lol

        […] gamble the future of humanity over western hegemonic interests

        …I thought this was about Ukraine fighting back against the country that’s been invading it

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          That’s why avoiding a nuclear war is in everyone’s interest. Yet, clearly plenty of imbeciles in the west don’t understand that.

          …I thought this was about Ukraine fighting back against the country that’s been invading it

          That’s because you’re utterly ignorant on the subject you’re attempting to discuss here. Ukraine is just a proxy for the US to attempt and extend Russia as the RAND paper puts it.

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            2 months ago

            Russia is in the drivers seat here. All they have to do is stop attacking a sovereign nation and not fire nuclear missiles. It’s pretty simple.

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              The fact that you don’t understand how utterly idiotic your statement is shows that no rational discussion with you will be possible.