• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Lmao

    Mutual defense and deterrent to invasion by hostile world powers both in and outside of NATO is a bad thing? Sure, okay pal.

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      It’s an alliance between Imperialist countries, and the alliance itself has Nazi origins and has had Nazi leaders. Yes, it’s a bad thing, because Imperialism is a bad thing.

      It’s a gang of countries that hyper-exploit the Global South in mutual defense against said Global South.

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        It’s literally only function is a deterrent to war, including by members against others as they will not gain NATO support unless they are attacked.

        Its members might exploit, but thats a meaningless statement about NATO itself because without NATO there would literally be more war.

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          It’s literally only function is a deterrent to war, including by members against others as they will not gain NATO support unless they are attacked.

          It’s expansionist against the wishes of outside countries, and NATO exerts military pressure on the Global South.

          Its members might exploit, but thats a meaningless statement about NATO itself because without NATO there would literally be more war.

          Bzzzzt wrong. NATO’s only function is to preserve Western Hegemony and dominate the Global South militarily, so that member-States can continue exploiting ruthlessly unopposed. This results in proxy wars, such as the Israeli genocide of Palestinians.

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            It’s expansionist against the wishes of outside countries

            this isn’t super accurate, joining nato has some pretty strict requirements, and besides yeeting NATO would be like the west completely nuking china and russia because “they did a human rights violation” it’s just a dogwhistle lmao.

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            Its not expansionist because you have to request to join.

            The only objecting countries whose wishes you’re referring to are nations who want to invade potential NATO members.

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              Its not expansionist because you have to request to join

              Bzzzzt wrong. NATO is expansionist because it pressures non-member states and routinely starts proxy wars.

              The only countries whose wishes you’re referring to are nations who want to invade potential NATO members.

              Bzzzzzt wrong. Western Hegemony damages the Global South and NATO keeps member-states unaccountable.

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                You’re accusing America of causing Russian annexation of Crimea and subsequent war on Ukraine?

                You think Russia is working for NATO?

                Pressuring people into a mutual defence pact lol such an evil thing lol

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      .

      Also, don’t send us reports just because you don’t agree with someone. We’re not here to censor people for you.

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        Oh no! So you want to talk about how the mutual self defence pact is somehow oppressing you or will you just keep dodging forever?

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          Nato is as much a “mutual defense” pact as sea lions are lions. These guys bombed Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq and countless other nations. The members of Nato have repeatedly cooperated with each other, using the military networks built through the alliance to wage proxy wars, perform coups, destabilise regions of the world at a scale never before seen in human history.

          You might as well call the axis a mutual defense alliance lmao.

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          Reason: User threatens me not to report his alt accounts for misinformation again

          What alt accounts? What are you even talking about? That’s two bullshit reports in one day, wasting our time.

          Reason: Claimes NATO forces other nations into subservience.