I feel like AliExpress and temu aren’t really equivalent. Temu makes it seem like you’re, well I guess the tagline is shop like a billionaire. Aliexpress doesn’t exactly hide the fact it’s a cheap Chinese market.
Aren’t they the same sweatshop slave-labor factory goods though?
Not that it’s possible to completely avoid goods which are made via exploitation, but I assumed they’re just an alternate outlet / search page for the same distributors and factories.
Skeletons in their closet and actively using slave labor are very different things, not that I blame you entirely, it’s not your fault companies like nestle own so fucking much it’s impossible to keep track of.
The latest thing I saw from Amnesty International about Nestle was praise for Nestle for publicly announcing unprompted that they had found slavery in their supply chain . Is that how low the bar is to be “the most ethical”, or is there an actual report making this claim?
So do I, do yourself a favor and find a local candy or chocolate shop. They’ll probably have something that is basically the same thing but vastly superior and not nestle. I know you’re just being a troll at this point but seriously do.
It’s a bit different to grab a snack at the counter (that’s likely partly produced in your country) than wait 1-2 months for a product to even arrive. Call it a convenience factor or whatever.
That said, I don’t know what kind of labor AliExpress goods use. Haven’t used them for a couple years but if I knew for sure (maybe someone here knows?) they used slave labor for example I probably would just choose to use some other company (which probably is just as likely to have unethical practices in some point of their supply chain tbf).
Sure I agree to a degree but choosing a product which you know uses 100% slave labor to save a penny is downright evil. (And this is exaggeration obviously before anyone butts in.)
No, we shouldn’t throw in the towel. That’s just giving up! We should actively pour fuel on our neighbour’s house fire and admire the pretty extra destruction it creates while we can. Immediate gratification is worth burning everyone’s house to the ground, including my own. /s
Sadly apathy is a common reaction to huge overwhelming problems. And it makes sense, emotionally distancing yourself from the suffering of others can be necessary to still function in horrible emergency situations like natural disasters. Unfortunately it also makes this problem, like many others, worse.
But we all do it, to different degrees. And it’s human. We can’t fix everything simultaneously. Those of us who are still able to empathise with strangers to some extent will have to do more work, or we become the problem too.
Sorry. This post isn’t targetted at you personally, I just am sad about the destruction of civilisations and the suffering people can inflict and this post came tumbling out. My coping mechanism is loud spontaneous complaining.
I feel like AliExpress and temu aren’t really equivalent. Temu makes it seem like you’re, well I guess the tagline is shop like a billionaire. Aliexpress doesn’t exactly hide the fact it’s a cheap Chinese market.
Temu is very obviously a bunch of low-grade tat though. Who feels like a billionaire buying such crap?
Aren’t they the same sweatshop slave-labor factory goods though?
Not that it’s possible to completely avoid goods which are made via exploitation, but I assumed they’re just an alternate outlet / search page for the same distributors and factories.
Probably. I’ve never used temu tbh but my understanding is it tries to present itself as not.
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Skeletons in their closet and actively using slave labor are very different things, not that I blame you entirely, it’s not your fault companies like nestle own so fucking much it’s impossible to keep track of.
That reminds me, we gotta add fucknestle to lemmy.
Nestle actually have done a lot. Amnesty report shows they are one of the most ethical companies now.
How much did they pay you to say that?
The latest thing I saw from Amnesty International about Nestle was praise for Nestle for publicly announcing unprompted that they had found slavery in their supply chain . Is that how low the bar is to be “the most ethical”, or is there an actual report making this claim?
If you don’t find slavery in your supply chain once in a while you are probably not even looking. Finding it is the first step to elimination.
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So do I, do yourself a favor and find a local candy or chocolate shop. They’ll probably have something that is basically the same thing but vastly superior and not nestle. I know you’re just being a troll at this point but seriously do.
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Wasn’t trying to, have a good night man.
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It’s a bit different to grab a snack at the counter (that’s likely partly produced in your country) than wait 1-2 months for a product to even arrive. Call it a convenience factor or whatever.
That said, I don’t know what kind of labor AliExpress goods use. Haven’t used them for a couple years but if I knew for sure (maybe someone here knows?) they used slave labor for example I probably would just choose to use some other company (which probably is just as likely to have unethical practices in some point of their supply chain tbf).
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Sure I agree to a degree but choosing a product which you know uses 100% slave labor to save a penny is downright evil. (And this is exaggeration obviously before anyone butts in.)
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They’re useless trash that are polluting the planet
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yeah you’re right, we should just throw in the towel? tf? im gonna guess you couldnt give af about slave labor either?
No, we shouldn’t throw in the towel. That’s just giving up! We should actively pour fuel on our neighbour’s house fire and admire the pretty extra destruction it creates while we can. Immediate gratification is worth burning everyone’s house to the ground, including my own. /s
Sadly apathy is a common reaction to huge overwhelming problems. And it makes sense, emotionally distancing yourself from the suffering of others can be necessary to still function in horrible emergency situations like natural disasters. Unfortunately it also makes this problem, like many others, worse.
But we all do it, to different degrees. And it’s human. We can’t fix everything simultaneously. Those of us who are still able to empathise with strangers to some extent will have to do more work, or we become the problem too.
Sorry. This post isn’t targetted at you personally, I just am sad about the destruction of civilisations and the suffering people can inflict and this post came tumbling out. My coping mechanism is loud spontaneous complaining.
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1 person not buying when 10 other people would do it anyway equals 10 sales instead of 11. It makes a difference.
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Ok.