• DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
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    4 months ago

    Would you say it might apply to an openly genocidal state conquering its neighbors?

    How about when that state also has up to 30% of its population by region in racial chattel slavery?

    How about when the genocide is done and the slavery ended but it still enforces apartheid politics?

    How about when it overthrows the government of any neighbor it disagrees with?

    Invades other countries and kills millions?

    But, hey. It’s not technically fascism as long it’s white men voting to do that, right? They usually weren’t even Italian! It’s stupid to call it fascism when it doesn’t come from Rome!

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      4 months ago

      Those are definitely trait you’d expect from fascism, but they are neither necessary nor sufficient to be fascist. Fascism is not just doing a bad thing. It’s a very specific set of traits, which the US does not meet —in my opinion and any other informed opinion that I’ve seen.

    • kameecoding@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Doing evil things =/= fascism.

      Fascists do evil things, so do others.

      I think this is the best video on fascism https://youtu.be/5Luu1Beb8ng?si=Bfyx8qpyz9EbuFQX

      I don’t disagree that fascism has been part of the US always but it has been everywhere, it never went away, but it really came out with trump whether you think Trump is a fascist or just a useful idiot/ opportunist capitalist is up to debate imo. But his following has a large group of fascists.

      They worship trump to an almost religious degree, they use fascist symbolism, they are predominantly white and believe they have a right to rule and be on top just because, they accept minorities and some lgb (not T) people as long as it lets them get into the position of power, then turn on them ( as seen by the many leopardsatemyface posts about gay republicans)

      Fascism is a specific political ideology that has some telltale signs not just a collection if evil deeds, what’s the point of using words if we bend the definition to whatever we want to say?

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        4 months ago

        Man, at this point the word has no more meaning. The definition has been coopted and broadened so much that anything bad is a fash