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“So long as I’m free to exploit you into subsistence, you’re free to die in the gutter when you’re too broken to produce value for me!”
-The capitalists destroying us and the habitability of the world for any future humans, solely to run up their ego scores.
I’m about three-quarters through Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged, and I wonder how she would interpret how reality played out in this country, being that her biggest fears would come from the value system she thought of as the solution.
They always double down with a no true Scotsman defense that we didn’t go far enough or didn’t implement the idea in full. This kicks the can down the line to ensure further exploitation.
We all sit back and act like we know how to fix it all but really we don’t. What we do know, and what we need everyone to understand, this ain’t it. Everything else we are capable of improving given the flexibility to make nessisary change and allocating the resources to appropriate people who have real philosophies and experience to make the change. Getting everyone on board needs to happen first.
How? How? How?
Stop listening. Stop listening to the internet. Stop listening to cable TV. If someone says nothing is wrong and nothing needs to change they are benefiting from the purposefully broken system. Stop listening.
Listen to your neighbor. Listen to the teachers. Listen to community’s. Once we can do all that. Then we need to unite all communities under the common goal of providing rest. The builders have built. The creatives have created. The workers have worked. Now they need to rest. They need to heal. They need to raise children who know what a bright future looks like so they can appreciate this life and their own humanity.
Now, everyone panic and tune out because sadly, I’ve given you an impossible task and you will never overcome your own programming.
Then we need to unite all communities under the common goal of providing rest.
“How? How? How?”
First step is to organize. Join an organization, any organization, or form your own.
First step is to organize.
Then what?
Then, that social movement (organization) puts forth it’s own candidate(s) to displace the corrupt government.
LOL
There is a reason Marxists promote reading history and philosophical theory; because the class struggle has been going on for a long time, and there is much we can learn about our current situation from those that wrote about their experiences in the past.
You will own nothing and be happy
And to top it all off, in order to preserve the only thing they have left - their freedom - they want to hand the country over to a dictator. It just doesn’t get any more oxymoronic than that.
Fascism is the logical endpoint of capitalism. Just look up the largest German companies, then what they did between 1933 and 1945.
No, fascism is communism.
Communism is on the left end of the political spectrum. Fascism is on the right end.
That’s a myth peddled by Americans.
Tell me you’ve never read communist theory, without telling me you’ve never read communist theory.
You realize that even The Christ was a communist? He literally told his followers to live in communes and share.
Lol ok. Brainwashing is hard in you.
Your projection would be hilarious if it wasn’t so embarrassing
To be fair, communism as seen under Stalin and fascism aren’t too different, horseshoe theory. Pulling the definition of fascism from wikipedia: “a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.”
Dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation, strong regimentation of the economy, you could see all of those things while Stalin was in power and many continued on subsequent USSR leaders.
It’s no wonder George Orwell, a democratic socialist, saw the USSR and said “fuck no, I don’t want that shit”
Bolsheviks were the most extreme faction, and bred authoritarianism into their movement. Wilson fucked things up for us there. I don’t consider Lenin or Stalin to be communists. They are authoritarian dictators. That’s antithetical to communist ideologies. I understand that the perception may be skewed, but no one thinks that North Korea is a democratic republic, despite their name.
There is, unfortunately, some people who do think it is.
Most brain dead take on this thread so far lmao
The US has the largest government in the history of the world, it is not remotely pure capitalist.
Who do you think the US government works for?
Many of them work for the rich, some of them have integrity, but most are just in it for their own power and benefit.
Power and benefit, also sometimes referred to with the term “capital”
Missing is destroying any hope of owning a house
Do you think that allowing millions of illegals into the country puts no pressure on the housing market?
Imagine being so fed up with propaganda to the point of believing that immigrants are causing the housing market prices to go to the moon, completely ignoring the companies, trust funds and banks essentially repeating 2008 all over again, but slightly different, buying houses and apartments as “safe investment”
Those millions of illegals sure are forming companies that buy up all the houses and sell or rent them at 10x the price
I think the best solution is a healthy balance of socialism and capitalism.
Extremes always tend to be dangerous.
I think the best solution is a healthy balance of socialism and capitalism.
Why?
Extremes always tend to be dangerous.
WHY?
Too much socialism encourage laziness, incompetence and poverty.
Too much capitalism encourage inequity, exploitation and consumerism.
I think both socialism and capitalism have their own pros and cons. But both are necessary.
Too much socialism encourage laziness, incompetence and poverty.
Does it? Says who? The Chicago school of economics?
Too much capitalism encourage inequity, exploitation and consumerism.
All Capitalism.
What good does Capitalism do?
You sound like someone that never worked in his entire life.
I hope I’m wrong.
You’re very wrong, and failed to address any of my arguments or back your own claims up, it’s jusy vibes and mysticism.
I didn’t fail to address any argument.
If you actually worked at least once in your life, you would understand the value of working, making money, competency and being useful to society.
I think you’re coping because you’re useless and incompetent. You’re using socialism as an escape mechanism.
You clearly have a misconception of what socialism is. Socialism does not mean sit around and collect benefits from the government. It means that workers (yes, people who WORK) own the means of production, rather than the do-nothing capitalist class which makes money parasitically from simply owning things.
Don’t forget depression, anxiety and thought crime caused by social media addiction
All communist social-media addicts are always hsppy for the rest of their lives, of course! The addiction can’t be the issue, it has to be capitalism!
Hey, I became a lot more hopeful for the future after reading Marx. Capitalism does indeed suck, but it’s unsustainable.
The problem Marx didn’t foresee is that capitalism can sustain itself until it destroys us all. In Nazi Germany, this left the country a bombed out pile of rubble. In modern times, it’s global warming.
Marx definitely foresaw that possibility, his conclusions are more that if there aren’t grand wars or famines eliminating everyone, Capitalism itself cannot last forever, which is far more comforting than assuming socialism can vibe itself into existence.
Looks Pension and savings look like they’re all there. Looks Still employed. Looks Still have free health care. Looks Still seem to be churning out graduates with pace. Looks No debt.
🤷♂️
Where’s do you live that you have a pension and free healthcare?
Seriously though who the fuck still has an actual pension anymore?
I do. But that’s because I’m in a union. This country needs more unions!
