How quickly we went from “I didn’t do it” to “I did it, but it wasn’t that bad”.
Wait for it…
That didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is, that’s not my fault.
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
Overused comment that has almost nothing to do with the point.
Just admit you’re too stupid to understand.
lol!
I’m no fucking predator or pedophile
Well… If the person was a minor, and you weren’t, and you knew they were young and the messages were ‘leaning inappropriate’, you’re a pedophile.
Also a predator.
I hate to get so semantical but using the word pedophile incorrectly just desensitizes the word. Pedophilia means being attracted to children, primarily meaning before or in the early stages of puberty, usually younger than 13. In fact, many pedophiles would not be attracted to someone aged 15+ because they are typically exclusively or primarily interested in prepubescent bodies.
That doesn’t mean this guy isn’t a total asshole, but he’s not a pedophile, and I think anyone can understand an adult sexting an older teen, while still absolutely horrid, is quite different from sexting a child.
Once again, absolutely not defending this guy, I don’t even know who he is… but I think it’s important not to desensitize the word.
I know the distinction, but hebephile doesn’t carry the same weight. Also, I believe I read the minor was 12. So… Pedo.
I stand by what I said. We don’t need to be apologistic towards the scum of the earth. Kids are kids.
Oh fuck. I heard she was 17 and that was fucking bad enough as is. Fucking hell this man is awful.
Yeah I would totally agree with this if the word wasn’t already desensitized a very long time ago. The language has changed. (I’m assuming people were ever differentiating, I don’t really know/remember the history.) Colloquially it means interested in teens unless it’s clarified to be worse than that.
I recommend not trying to make this argument, anywhere. It will not change the way people use words, even if it could there would not be a point (attraction to pre-teens is so egregious that it will always be clarified), and a lot of people will assume that someone who doesn’t accept the colloquial usage is themselves interested in teens and in denial about how the public actually views that to the point where they think only interest in prepubescent children is problematic and handwave everything else away as a language issue.
Colloquially, it’s a catch-all nowadays. Like I said in another reply, we don’t need to differentiate between lowest common denominators. That gets into sounding sympathetic to these fucks, and anyone who sympathizes might as well be one themselves.
I’ve attended a seminar for child protection before that was delivered by a former cop (that worked in the sex crimes division) and they said the exact same thing - in the context of correctly making the distinction between paedophile and sex offender.
Sounds like he was grooming her.
You sound like a pedophile.
That is not the words you should use for a 17 year old he didn’t even know was underage.
He said he knew in his post.
Still not a pedophile nor a predator even for flirting. This is not a 12 year old, but in many jurisdictions a responsible adult.
He’s a morally reprehensible asshole either way.
Yeah, he is mainly a cheater on his wife. Not exactly great, but conversations on this sound like by people who never leave their basement and talk to people.
I leave my basement and talk to people every day without hitting on underage girls
A pedophile predator is somebody who systematically texts underage people, and fishes out the vulnerable ones to exploit their weaknesses for their own satisfaction and exerts control over them. Speaking to a single, depending on the jurisdiction (±1 year), consenting adult (17 is young, but not completely stupid), with slightly flirty messages is absolutely not that. it isn’t even toxic. in fact, it devalues this tag for behaviour which is not cool due to the cheating and a bit skittish because of the age difference, but is otherwise kind of okay. See, next time somebody tells me about a pedophile predator I will be thinking about a conversation between two adults, or almost adult and not nasty abuse scarring people for life.
Have you talked to 17 year olds? They are far from developed in most cases. Anyone even in their late 20s should notice the difference in development and stay clear.
Yeah that’s a fair take.
It is reprehensible and disgusting behavior, but it doesn’t mean we should universally apply labels across vast swaths of different issues, as it devalues said label and poisons future discussion.
Simple labels simplify discussion of course, but that runs the risk of losing nuance for the specific way someone was a disgusting creep.
Unlike you who leaves in his windowless van to go hang out with your girlfriend at her highschool.
No point in leaving the windowless van, if I chained my highscool girlfriend inside it.
Dubious take.
Mfers out here googling what age a legal adult is to defend predators
Not in the jurisdiction he was in, and that’s all that matters.
Also, while sending sexually explicit texts to minors (using only words) is not illegal, I’m pretty sure we can correlate what his intent was. What, do you think he’s going to come out and fully admit he’s a pedophile? No.
Also, nowhere in any of his statements has he clarified that he didn’t know they were underage. If it were the case that he didn’t know, that’s a pretty fucking big deal and he should know how important it is to explain that. He didn’t though.
Stop defending pedophiles.
Where did that age come from?
Are you seriously taking the pedophiles side on this?!
It isn’t pedophilia, that is the point. It is flirting with a, in many countries and states, consenting person.
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Then why aim at me and not change the legislation?
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Ya he was just trying to be a pedophile. Totally different…
“I’m not a predator” said the tiger as he approached the sheep.
Apropos.
Is anyone else bothered (but not surprised) by the fact that Amazon/Twitch agreed to cover it up for him? Seems pretty wild that they should be off the hook for working to protect his image after doing predatory shit like this.
I think they kept it on the low because they don’t want people realizing that they’re viewing the contents of their whispers, even if you have no reasonable expectation of privacy.
Everyone will forget about twitch’s involvement within a week. Just like every time literally any big event happens with any company.
It’s all about the Benjamins
What’s weird is twitch paid him instead of him paying them.
They paid him to go away and to shut up. Twitch letting one of their most popular creators message sexual content to a minor over their platform for years is a PR nightmare. Shows the lack of oversight social media has. Why would they even allow a 12 year old the ability to private message a 30 year old to begin with?!
Edit: and I’m sure twitch found more dirt going through all his communications. This pedo was even planning a meet up with this minor before the minors parent put a stop to it and notified twitch.
Beware that points like this suggest that messaging platforms should be monitoring all communications sent between users. If that’s the world you want to live in, ok, fine… But in this case the guy that committed the crime is the one who has been punished. Isn’t that the correct result?
I’m just saying that, maybe if you are a creator making content primarily watched by children, the trade off for making money (millions in this case.) off of our platform, is we get to monitor your communications with said audience on our platform? It’s like saying a banker who uses their work email to coordinate a crime. My work has email monitoring that looks for financial crimes because surprisingly people are dumb enough to use work email for elicit activities. Yes his messages to individuals are “private” but should they be when in a position of power? He messaged a minor through twitches chat (twitch is essentially his whole job) and twitch has NO safeguards to prevent abuse?!
wop wop wop wop wop
I have this feeling this is probably not the last controversy involving minors we will see shake out of his mustache this week. Justin Roiland had his empire also collapse from grooming. Guy is done.
That’s why drake is done too? The guy who beat the shit out of a woman and tattooed it on himself? Drake the groomer with his new album? That done?
That’s the thing right. Nobody gets “cancelled”
They get called out and shamed… and then carry on with business a few weeks later.Rammstein is filling stadiums again, drd will come back from his vacation and keep on trucking on.
They never face consequences and yet they cry about a woke cancelculture that only exists in their heads to hype up their own bullshit
“Help! Help! I am being held accountable for my actions. The whole woke mob is coming after me and trying to cancel me!”
Did the allegations against rammstein ever amount to anything? I remember seeing the initial story, but then never any follow up about how the court cases went or whether it turned out to be true or not
Wait, what happened with Rammstein?
I didn’t know what happened but I found this: https://www.dw.com/en/rammstein-sexual-assault-allegations-a-timeline/a-66716970
Apparently there were some women drugged and abused :/
Legally, no. But there was zero intention to investigate, or clear up anything from the band. No comments, distancing from such actions.
They just threw c&ds at the women in question and buried the topic. Ah and made fun of it of course.
“You’re only as canceled as your next project.” – F.D. Signifier
The issue there is that all Drake fans are pedophiles.
did you mean chris brown for the tattoo thing?
very funny to release what is clearly a meticulously crafted response to career ending allegations of pedophilia while still staying in character as like the bad guy in a movie where a golden retriever learns to play counter strike
From the article, it sounds like he knew they were a minor and still leaned into the conversations. Why? Why TF would you even be curious about it?
“When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.” -Some Rapist
“Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.” -Some Rapist
Yes he is.
But dude you don’t understand, he reverse uno’d you. The end.
Yeah I’ll believe that when they release the transcript of what he said to the minor
Fine. I won’t pick a side. I won’t crucify anyone without evidence. So…release the transcripts. That seems like the logical step.
The transcripts won’t be released unless they’re leaked. Giving out any details about the minor he was chatting with risks exposing the victim, who is possibly still a minor. Releasing the transcripts would be an incredibly damaging move, and not to Beahm; people would almost certainly doxx the kid immediately, possibly putting them at even greater risk of harm than they would have been in to begin with.
We don’t need to see them, anyway. We’re not involved. We have nothing to gain from reading the details. If self-admitting to having inappropriate conversations with minors isn’t evidence enough to convince you one way or the other, then I really don’t see how reading a sext thread with a child will make much of a difference.
It was seven years ago. Unless he was talking to a ten year old, they’re not a minor anymore.
And if they are…well, first of all, yikes, and second of all his career as a content creator is going to go from “damaged” to “gone” as no platform would let him stream after that.
Twitch settled with him instead of losing in arbitration for banning him. I want to see the the transcripts. It sounds like part of his settlement was that he couldn’t talk about it but ex twitter employees violated the nda. That’s a lot of work on twitches side to keep it hushed which makes this weirder.
He’s a massive pos so it Wouldn’t surprise me if he did do something worthy of this witch hint but damnit i want to see the texts before i burn him when twitch is being so weird about it.
That’s a lot of work on twitches side to keep it hushed which makes this weirder.
I don’t think that’s weird, twitch really doesn’t want the pr of being wrong or having a pedo on their platform, its a lose-lose and I would expect them to try and cover it up regardless.
That sounds… Disrespectful.
Why is this guy still around after bathroom?
Huh?
He streamed inside a public bathroom at E3. Then there’s also the thing where he cheated on his wife. I don’t know why people are so drawn to online personalities who prove over and over again they’re bad people with no intention to change.
If I recall correctly, he filmed some people in a bathroom without their consent
Oh. Yeah fuck this guy.
Pretty sure that entire thing was accidental. Not that it makes the situation any better.
Well, other than just having a phone in your pocket and mistakenly hitting record, I’m not sure how it could be accidental.
He was live streaming at a venue and went to pee and forgot to turn off his camera feed iirc.
I keep thinking back to years ago when someone at work tried to tell me this guy was good and I could just tell on vibes alone to stay clear.
Seems like I have to add this moron to the ignore list right next to Musk, so I no longer see posts about him.
Shit I forgot about this feature. Thanks!
My t-shirt saying “I’m no fucking predator or paedophile” has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my shirt.
